Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making
Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@mit.edu> Tue, 01 November 2005 16:22 UTC
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>>>>> "Melinda" == Melinda Shore <mshore@cisco.com> writes: Melinda> As we discussed briefly last week, I see decision-making Melinda> in the IETF as both an ongoing problem and specifically Melinda> as an impediment to making changes in response to the Melinda> "problem" process. I'm proposing a set of principles for Melinda> IETF decision-making, although now that I look at them Melinda> I'm not sure that they'll actually be useful for this Melinda> particular process. Still, I hope they'll provide a Melinda> starting point for further discussion, at least. My Melinda> specific concerns are that: 1) consensus-style Melinda> decision-making does not scale to an organization the Melinda> size of the IETF, I'm here because of the consensus process. I believe it leads to better quality technical work. I have no interest in participating in an IETF if "rough consensus and running code," is not the core decision making principle. So take this as at least one very strong voice for disagreement with your approach. I'm sure you expected that some people would hold my position. --Sam as an individual _______________________________________________ Pesci-discuss mailing list Pesci-discuss@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pesci-discuss
- [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making JFC (Jefsey) Morfin
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Sam Hartman
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] principles for decision-making Melinda Shore