Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings
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So, I read this as saying no change of principle here,
which would mean out of scope for PESCI.
Brian
Harald Tveit Alvestrand wrote:
>
>
> --On fredag, oktober 21, 2005 10:42:40 +0300 Jari Arkko
> <jari.arkko@piuha.net> wrote:
>
>> Scott W Brim wrote:
>>
>>> How can we have the focus of the interims and
>>> still have the cross-fertilization?
>>>
>>>
>> Easy. Do both. Its silly to think that 3 x 2 hrs = 6 hrs
>> of face time per year will advance any major piece of
>> technology. In addition, people will need to have
>> design teams, conference calls, interim meetings,
>> private meetings, etc. And obviously work on their
>> drafts and reviews on their own.
>
>
> And work on the mailing list, of course.....
> In some ways, I see face-to-face meetings as accelerating the work of
> the mailing list more than replacing the at-IETF meetings.
>
>> Having said that, I don't think the focus of the main
>> IETF meeting should be just "reporting to a broader
>> audience" as Geoff put it. I hate status report meetings
>> packed with 10 minute slots of "we updated the draft
>> and here are the issues please continue the discussion
>> on the list". Its true that we do get a broader audience,
>> both within and outside the WG in the IETF main meetings.
>> However, the meeting should still focus on discussion
>> of relevant technical topics, engaging not just
>> the regular key contributors but also others in this
>> discussion.
>
>
> Concur. This is very much a chair orientation issue, I think; if the
> chair insists on running the session as a 5-min-per-draft reporting
> session, that's how it will be. The chair has the power to decide this -
> and the chair SHOULD know what the critical issues for the WG are at any
> given time.
>
> Harald
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- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Geoff Huston
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Harald Tveit Alvestrand
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Scott W Brim
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings (was: R… Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Dave Crocker
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Jari Arkko
- Re: [Pesci-discuss] Face-to-face meetings Tony Hansen