Re: [Pesci-discuss] IETF chair issue [Question: stability of IAB]

This isn't really PESCI core business but I'll attempt
to answer below...

Pekka Savola wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2005, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> 
>> IESG workload and chasing up the sources of delay.
>> And that isn't because I don't know what needs to be
>> done - actually Bill Fenner has a web page that tells
>> me exactly which documents need extra attention.
>>
>> http://rtg.ietf.org:8080/Test/tracker_exceptions
> 
> 
> It's great to see that such a page is finally up, even as experimental.
> 
> For example, if a doc languishes in 'publication requested', 'AD 
> evaluation' or whatever for 100+ days, we can hardly be proud of the 
> result. That's also a very good way to kill the WG's, editors', etc. 
> enthusiasm on the work.
> 
> Is the IESG doing something about this list, both:
>  - in preventive steps, decreasing the likelihood that new docs get on
>    "seriously delayed" stage (e.g., in each telechat, look at 10-15
>    docs which have just appeared on the list or crossed some
>    more serious threshold), and

Well, we are thinking about having automatic tickle messages when
documents cross a threshold. But given the amount of mail that
ADs get anyway, more electronic tickles probably won't really help.
That's why I believe more proactive "progress chasing" is needed,
somehow.

>  - getting the already seriously delayed docs moving again (e.g., in
>    each telechat, discuss the 10 or 15 "worst cases")

That would take a couple of hours (serious estimate) because if they
are stuck, it's usually for a reason. I think the real use of the list
is for work *between* the telechats.

     Brian

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