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Re: [Pidloc] Id-Loc privacy Lightning talk at #102

Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com> Tue, 31 July 2018 19:18 UTC

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From: Behcet Sarikaya <sarikaya2012@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:18:05 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Pidloc] Id-Loc privacy Lightning talk at #102
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Hi Dino,

Your RFC addresses secure communication between ITRs and ETRs using
Diffie-Helman key exchange, it is to be used when plaintext packets are
sent by hosts.
Interested parties can go more in detail about it.

BTW we had already referenced your draft in our previous atic activity,
draft-xyzy-atick-gaps-00.txt in Section 3.3:


I hope that you are not implying that this is somehow what we want to do in
this group if it were you would certainly  recommend RFC 8061 as the
solution.

Regards,
Behcet

On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 9:49 AM, Dino Farinacci <farinacci@gmail.com> wrote:

> Let me know if you want me to forward any slide-sets from previous LISP WG
> presentations.
>
> Dino
>
> > On Jul 31, 2018, at 7:48 AM, <Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de> <
> Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dino,
> > Thanks a lot! Of course you are right – that RFC also addresses a
> mechanism laying ground for privacy and security in one id-loc approach but
> also lists requirements which are more general and could serve for further
> discussion here. Especially I like  that one:
> > Authentication and privacy are provided with a single mechanism thereby
> providing less per-packet overhead and therefore more resource efficiency.
> > Thanks again for pointing to it!
> > Best Regards
> > Dirk
> >
> > From: Dino Farinacci [mailto:farinacci@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Montag, 30. Juli 2018 18:25
> > To: von Hugo, Dirk <Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de>
> > Cc: pidloc@ietf.org; sarikaya@ieee.org
> > Subject: Re: [Pidloc] Id-Loc privacy Lightning talk at #102
> >
> > You should have probably included in the slide-set reference:
> >
> > <image003.png>
> >
> > Dino
> >
> >
> > On Jul 30, 2018, at 12:58 AM, <Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de> <
> Dirk.von-Hugo@telekom.de> wrote:
> >
> > Dear all
> > In case somebody has missed the short presentation during Aarons Sunday
> night session … you’ll find slides here:https://datatracker.ietf.
> org/meeting/102/materials/slides-102-hotrfc-privacy-issues-with-tunneling-
> alternatives-in-next-generation-systems-00
> > Since there was no discussion foreseen then we would appreciate your
> comments here
> > Thanks!
> > Best Regards
> > Dirk
> >
> >
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