OFF TOPIC ==> Re: IAHC archive [was Re: Comments on gTLD-MOU Leadership [was: Bob shaws misrepresentation of Jeff williams's comments]]
Jay Fenello <Jay@Iperdome.com> Thu, 14 May 1998 19:00 UTC
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Date: Thu, 14 May 1998 14:51:09 -0400
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From: Jay Fenello <Jay@Iperdome.com>
Subject: OFF TOPIC ==> Re: IAHC archive [was Re: Comments on gTLD-MOU Leadership [was: Bob shaws misrepresentation of Jeff williams's comments]]
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At 01:53 PM 5/14/98 -0400, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > >Jay Fenello writes: >> Based on your tone, it looks like >> I have hit a nerve ;-) > >Who's hit a nerve for whom, Mr. Fenello? Nervous smiley there, >perhaps? > >I've got logs, Mr. Fenello, of your machines being used to launch an >attack on mine. You can't possibly be unaware of this. Eugene >Kashpureff was probably the major player in the incident in question, >but it appears you actively cooperated with him. > >As I said, I've never considered submitting them to the >authorities. My taste for bringing the law to bear in what I could >only describe as questions of decorum isn't very strong. However, as >long as we are talking about archives, and as long as you were going >to use inflamitory language, I thought I'd mention that there are all >sorts of archives out there, and that the statute of limitations has >yet to expire. Hi Perry, Thank you for showing the entire IETF community the tactics that you have been using since I joined the debate in January, 1997. It is one reason why I have named you one of the people most responsible for the divisions that now exist in the Internet community. What started out as a discussion about missing email archives (of which the Newdom discussions of the IAHC formation and the community response to it are *still* missing), you have resorted to the next strategy on your check list -- personal attacks. And unlike the email archives that *have* mysteriously vanished, the details of my relationship with Eugene are clearly available in the remaining email archives. I encourage everyone interested to review them at: http://www.newdom.com/archive/ I am proud of my involvement in this debate, and regardless of the outcome, I know that in some small way, I have helped to make the Internet a better place. Regards, Jay Fenello President, Iperdome, Inc. 404-250-3242 http://www.iperdome.com >> Is there something in those missing archives that frightens you? > >There are no "missing archives" of postings. > >What there has been, this entire time, is the problem that on the >internet, no one knows you're a dog -- or, put more directly, that >uninformed observers have difficulty knowing that Jeff Williams is, in >fact, a loon living in a residential hotel in Texas and is not the >"Director" of anything other than his own bath towels, that Eugene, as >much as he tried to make himself look like a reasonable guy, ended up >being jailed thanks to his thuggish behavior, that Jim Fleming is a >delusional guy who babbles about "Stargates" and the "IPv8" protocol, >which exists entirely in his own imagination, and who largely posts >calculated untruths about every topic he discusses, etc., etc. > >Practically the only person here who I actually see as a legitimately >tragic figure is Karl Denninger, who is a reasonably honest man and >who appears to have legitimately believed in what he was doing, and >tried to do it with some honesty. The rest of you, however, all have >about as much personal credibility as the Unibomber. > >For quite some time here, we've all had our inboxes saturated with >crud by people who, in a previous era, would have been reduced to >handing out mimeographs on the streetcorner about the CIA controlling >their brains with microwaves. The lessons for the future of politics >should be taken. > >However, in spite of your capacities for drivel production, you have >nothing to frighten *ANYONE* here. What you can do, however, is post >day and night until people surrender and put you in their kill files. > >Perry >