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Re: [pim] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-snooping-yang-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com> Tue, 21 July 2020 08:38 UTC

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From: "Rob Wilton (rwilton)" <rwilton@cisco.com>
To: Hongji Zhao <hongji.zhao=40ericsson.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [pim] Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-snooping-yang-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi Hongji,

That is fine.  Thank you for considering/discussing the options.  I have cleared my discuss.

Regards,
Rob


From: iesg <iesg-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Hongji Zhao
Sent: 21 July 2020 02:19
To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com>
Cc: Stig Venaas <stig@venaas.com>; pim-chairs@ietf.org; Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>; Eric Vyncke (evyncke) <evyncke@cisco.com>; pim@ietf.org; draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-snooping-yang@ietf.org
Subject: RE: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-snooping-yang-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Hi Robert,

As you summarized, each option has its pros & cons. There is no best choice.
So we plan to take the approach as Alvaro's suggestion.

Thanks a lot!

BR/Hongji

From: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com<mailto:aretana.ietf@gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2020 12:23 AM
To: Hongji Zhao <hongji.zhao@ericsson.com<mailto:hongji.zhao@ericsson.com>>; The IESG <iesg@ietf.org<mailto:iesg@ietf.org>>; Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwilton@cisco.com<mailto:rwilton@cisco.com>>
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Subject: RE: Robert Wilton's Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-snooping-yang-17: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Rob:

I understand what alternate structures may have been better.  Given the stage at which we are, my preference would be to leave the model as is.

[OTOH, if the authors want to take on the work of changing the structure… I won’t be opposed — knowing what we will basically go back to square one.]

Thanks!

Alvaro.


On July 14, 2020 at 4:57:13 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) (rwilton@cisco.com<mailto:rwilton@cisco.com>) wrote:
However, this is just a preference, and I also want to see IETF YANG models completed and standardized. I.e., I will not block progression of this document if the authors & Alvaro thinks that the existing module structure is sufficient, or choose to do (2) instead.

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