Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PIM DR improvements or different draft
"Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" <mankamis@cisco.com> Wed, 06 January 2021 19:29 UTC
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From: "Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)" <mankamis@cisco.com>
To: Alvaro Retana <aretana.ietf@gmail.com>, "zhang.zheng"
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Thread-Topic: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PIM DR improvements
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Subject: Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR,
should it be added to PIM DR improvements or different draft
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Thanks every one for input. So I would update Sticky PIM DR without capability option in draft-mankamana-pim-bdr. Will ask for adoption in coming IETF. Mankamana On 12/4/20, 9:04 AM, "Alvaro Retana" <aretana.ietf@gmail.com> wrote: On December 4, 2020 at 11:03:22 AM, Stig Venaas wrote: Stig: Hi! > Thoughts? Do you see this differently? I'm ok with whatever the WG decides, as long as the relationship and interaction between multiple potential solutions is clear. This is what I wrote in my review of draft-ietf-pim-dr-improvement-09: === (2) As far as I can see draft-mankamana-pim-bdr has not been adopted yet. Assuming that is the plan, how would the two mechanisms interact? Given that draft-mankamana-pim-bdr doesn't add options, and §5 says that if no options are received then the routers MUST use rfc7761, how does a router implementing this specification tell the difference? I realize that some of these questions may be better directed at draft-mankamana-pim-bdr, but because the WG agreed that a statement relating the two should be included in this document [1], then I'm asking now. I would really like to understand what the WG expects. === The WG is already aware of both drafts. Assuming draft-mankamana-pim-bdr is adopted, I would prefer it if both solutions are progressed together (one or two documents is ok with me). Thanks! Alvaro.
- [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PIM DR… Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PI… Stig Venaas
- Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PI… zhang.zheng
- Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PI… Stig Venaas
- Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PI… Alvaro Retana
- Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PI… zhang.zheng
- Re: [pim] Sticky PIM DR, should it be added to PI… Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)