[pim] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-3228bis-06: (with DISCUSS)
Paul Wouters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org> Wed, 07 August 2024 19:19 UTC
Return-Path: <noreply@ietf.org>
X-Original-To: pim@ietf.org
Delivered-To: pim@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from [10.244.2.66] (unknown [104.131.183.230]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF6B9C14F5EB; Wed, 7 Aug 2024 12:19:19 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
From: Paul Wouters via Datatracker <noreply@ietf.org>
To: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>
X-Test-IDTracker: no
X-IETF-IDTracker: 12.21.0
Auto-Submitted: auto-generated
Precedence: bulk
Message-ID: <172305835951.1013121.1666113825012029615@dt-datatracker-6dd76c4557-2mkrj>
Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2024 12:19:19 -0700
Message-ID-Hash: S7JP5X3PBWLS6RETXWSC5KZ4VIFMMB4N
X-Message-ID-Hash: S7JP5X3PBWLS6RETXWSC5KZ4VIFMMB4N
X-MailFrom: noreply@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Rule-Misses: dmarc-mitigation; no-senders; approved; emergency; loop; banned-address; member-moderation; header-match-pim.ietf.org-0; nonmember-moderation; administrivia; implicit-dest; max-recipients; max-size; news-moderation; no-subject; digests; suspicious-header
CC: draft-ietf-pim-3228bis@ietf.org, pim-chairs@ietf.org, pim@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 3.3.9rc4
Reply-To: Paul Wouters <paul.wouters@aiven.io>
Subject: [pim] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-3228bis-06: (with DISCUSS)
List-Id: Protocol Independent Multicast <pim.ietf.org>
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/pim/LD2oiwKD5h0vvf0W_-5WJENgW0I>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/pim>
List-Help: <mailto:pim-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Owner: <mailto:pim-owner@ietf.org>
List-Post: <mailto:pim@ietf.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:pim-join@ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:pim-leave@ietf.org>
Paul Wouters has entered the following ballot position for draft-ietf-pim-3228bis-06: Discuss When responding, please keep the subject line intact and reply to all email addresses included in the To and CC lines. (Feel free to cut this introductory paragraph, however.) Please refer to https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/handling-ballot-positions/ for more information about how to handle DISCUSS and COMMENT positions. The document, along with other ballot positions, can be found here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-pim-3228bis/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- DISCUSS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- I find it a bit odd that the reason for why the IANA registration policies are changed to Standards Track is only listed in the Security Considerations. I think this belongs in the Abstract and / or Introduction. In the Security Considerations it lists that the justification is more or less that middleware screws up unknown values, so by making it harder to make registrations, this will reduce the bad impact of this misbehaving middleware. I guess my question is if this is really the appropriate action for the IETF to take in response to badly engineered middleware boxes. I am assuming the old registration policy had a justification that is still valid but now thrown under the bus. Has there been any discussion of this on an IETF list? For example have known middlware vendors been approached to try and get their implementations updated? It might be that this document is a "last resort" kind of action, but neither the document nor the Shepherds Writeup give any indication of this.
- [pim] Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-pim-322… Paul Wouters via Datatracker
- [pim] Re: Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-pim… Brian Haberman
- [pim] Re: Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-pim… Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)
- [pim] Re: Paul Wouters' Discuss on draft-ietf-pim… Brian Haberman