Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igmp-mld-extension
Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com> Tue, 17 March 2020 23:55 UTC
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From: Gyan Mishra <hayabusagsm@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Mar 2020 19:54:53 -0400
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Subject: Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igmp-mld-extension
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I support adoption. Thanks Gyan On Mon, Mar 16, 2020 at 10:25 PM Hitoshi Asaeda <asaeda@ieee.org> wrote: > Hi, > > I like the idea and also wanted to add such optional fields in > IGMPv3/MLDv2 that can be used for various purposes. The reasons why I > hesitated to propose the additional optional fields in IGMPv3/MLDv2 are as > follows; > > This I-D says; > The extension will be part of additional data as mentioned in > [RFC3810] Section 5.1.12 (resp. [RFC3376] Section 4.1.10) for query > messages and [RFC3810] Section 5.2.12 (resp. [RFC3376] > Section 4.2.11) for report messages. > However, for example, sect.4.1.10 in rfc3376 says; > If the Packet Length field in the IP header of a received Query > indicates that there are additional octets of data present, beyond > the fields described here, IGMPv3 implementations MUST include those > octets in the computation to verify the received IGMP Checksum, but > MUST otherwise ignore those additional octets. When sending a Query, > an IGMPv3 implementation MUST NOT include additional octets beyond > the fields described here. > From this last sentence, I understand hosts accepts the longer IGMPv3 > query (if the checksum is correct) but ignores the additional fields for > the further processes. This may be Ok for existing (conventional) > implementations as they simply ignore the additional fields, which they > don't understand/proceed. However, you should investigate and mention the > situations and conditions in which conventional hosts (that don't support > this I-D) and new hosts (that support this I-D) exist in a LAN. Moreover, > according to rfc3376, the new hosts that support this I-D must also support > rfc3376, which seems a contradiction. > > One more another thing is that since IGMP/MLD classifies their version by > the packet length, we cannot propose IGMPv4/MLDv3 if you allow this > variable length fields in IGMPv3/MLDv2. > > If lucky this I-D is accepted, don't forget to refer > Lightweight-IGMPv3/MLDv2 [RFC5790] as they also define the standard > IGMPv3/MLDv2 formats. > > Regards, > > Hitoshi > > > > On Mar 17, 2020, at 8:38, Michael McBride <michael.mcbride@futurewei.com> > wrote: > > > > Hope everyone is doing well hunkering down. > > > > Today begins a two week call for adoption for > https://tools.ietf.org/id/draft-venaas-pim-igmp-mld-extension-01.txt. > > > > Please give it a read (just six pages) and let us know whether or not > you support the adoption of this proposal for defining the extensions of > IGMP/MLD using a new message type. > > > > Thanks, > > mike > > _______________________________________________ > > pim mailing list > > pim@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > > _______________________________________________ > pim mailing list > pim@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pim > -- Gyan Mishra Network Engineering & Technology Verizon Silver Spring, MD 20904 Phone: 301 502-1347 Email: gyan.s.mishra@verizon.com
- [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igmp-ml… Michael McBride
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… William Atwood
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… William Atwood
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Stig Venaas
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… zhang.zheng
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Holland, Jake
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Stig Venaas
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… zhang.zheng
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… zhang.zheng
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Stig Venaas
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Stig Venaas
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Hitoshi Asaeda
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Ehsan Hemmati (ehemmati)
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Xiejingrong (Jingrong)
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Ramakrishnan Chokkanathapuram (ramaksun)
- Re: [pim] Call for adoption: draft-venaas-pim-igm… Michael McBride