Re: [pim] [yang-doctors] Optional key support?

["Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]>]

Hi,

The list control-plane-protocol in RFC8349 is keyed on type + name, this works fine for protocols which support multiple instances. In the MLD case (and others) we only have 1 instance of the protocol and we don’t want to enforce the end user to specify a name. With the recommended option (attached), we still have to provide an empty name.

Regards,
Reshad.

From: 'Andy Bierman' <[e-mail]>
Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 5:36 PM
To: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]>
Cc: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]>, Mahesh Sivakumar <[e-mail]>, Stig Venaas <[e-mail]>, Guofeng <[e-mail]>, Anish Peter <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, Liuyisong <[e-mail]>, Pete McAllister <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] Optional key support?

Hi,

It has been discussed before.
It is already allowed for config=false nodes so the change would be to allow config=true nodes
to have no keys.

Each time it comes up, somebody mentions that
(a) NETCONF/RESTCONF has no mechanism to delete all list entries
(b) The client cannot create more than 1 entry. How does the server know
     the next entry is a different instance or replacing the first instance?

What is the use-case for a config list without keys?


Andy


On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 2:16 PM, Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
<Changed subject>

Hi Xufeng,

I don’t know if this has been discussed for yang-next but it doesn’t seem to be in the yang-next list. I believe optional keys were discussed for YANG1.1, maybe others on the YD list remember…
https://github.com/netmod-wg/yang-next/issues

In this case, I believe it would have been useful to have that functionality.

Regards,
Reshad.

From: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Date: Tuesday, October 23, 2018 at 4:39 PM
To: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Cc: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Mahesh Sivakumar <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Stig Venaas <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Guofeng <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Anish Peter <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Liuyisong <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Pete McAllister <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] [pim] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-07

Hi Reshad and All,

Do you think that it would be useful to eventually extend YANG spec to allow an optional key with a default value? That would allow the user not to enter the extra empty string, and make the model more user friendly.

Thanks,
- Xufeng

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:02 AM Reshad Rahman (rrahman) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Hi Xufeng,

I think we should go with the solution proposed by Chris (attached) when we last discussed this. I realize it’s not ideal but IMO it’s better than other proposals.

Regards,
Reshad.

From: yang-doctors <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> on behalf of Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Date: Friday, October 19, 2018 at 9:21 AM
To: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Cc: Mahesh Sivakumar <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Stig Venaas <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Guofeng <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Anish Peter <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Liuyisong <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, Pete McAllister <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] [pim] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-07

Hi Jan,

Thanks for reviewing.
For #1, as discussed, there is no other better solution at the moment. What would you suggest?
Thanks.
- Xufeng

On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 4:25 AM Jan Lindblad <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Feng,

Hi Jan,

We updated  draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang according to the comments #2 ~ #7, while Xufeng and you had discussed about comment #1.
Please review the draft, thanks a lot.
https://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-08.txt

Good. I looked through the points #2-#7 and find that the work group have understood and fixed those issues. #1 still remains to be resolved. I can do a full re-review of the module once that one has been resolved as well. Are there any outstanding questions on how to fix #1?

Best Regards,
/jan
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Feng

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Subject: Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-07

Reviewer: Jan Lindblad
Review result: On the Right Track

This is my YANG-doctor review of draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-07. In the spring, I did an early review of the -02 version.

Most of the comments from the earlier review are still valid. In some ways the document has progressed since -02, in many it has not, and in a few it has deteriorated. In my judgement, the document is not ready for last call. Many fundamentally important questions are still unresolved. Here are my review comments in rough falling order of importance.

#1 Improper augment of /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols

Quoted from section 3.1:
   This model augments the core routing data model "ietf-routing"
   specified in [RFC8349].  The IGMP model augments "/rt:routing/
   rt:control-plane-protocols" as opposed to augmenting "/rt:routing/
   rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol", as the latter
   would allow multiple protocol instances, while the IGMP protocol is
   designed to be enabled or disabled as a single protocol instance on
   a network instance or a logical network element.

The description above, and the actual augment statements in the YANG module violate the principles described in RFC 8349, the ietf-routing.yang module it augments. In RFC 8349, section 5.3.  Control-Plane Protocol, the proper way of augmenting the routing module is described. The fact that this is a singleton protocol instance doesn't change this. Section 5.3 describes singleton cases as well.

Guofeng: Xufeng has discussed with Jan about the comment, and it is closed.

#2 Incorrect vendor refinement model

Quoted from section 2.2:
   For the same reason, wide constant ranges (for example, timer
   maximum and minimum) will be used in the model.  It is expected that
   vendors will augment the model with any specific restrictions that
   might be required. Vendors may also extend the features list with
   proprietary extensions.

This is not acceptable. The principle suggested does not foster interoperability and useful standards. It is also not possible to do what the paragraph suggests in YANG. This was pointed out in the -02 review, and a suggestion was given there on how to address the problem.

Guofeng: We removed the paragraph above, and put the values discussed by Mcast Design Team.


#3 Top level structures not optional

Quoted from section 2.3:
   The current document contains IGMP and MLD as separate schema
   branches in the structure. The reason for this is to make it easier
   for implementations which may optionally choose to support specific
   address families. And the names of objects may be different between
   the IPv4 (IGMP) and IPv6 (MLD) address families.

This problem was also pointed out in the -02 review. The author suggests that implementing igmp and/or mld is optional. This is not reflected in the YANG module, however. As currently modeled, both are currently mandatory to implement. If-feature is used liberally in the module, and could be used here as well.

#4 Unclear meaning of optional leaves

Quoted from section 3.1:
   Where fields are not genuinely essential to protocol operation, they
   are marked as optional. Some fields will be essential but have a
   default specified, so that they need not be configured explicitly.

In fact, in the current version of the module, every leaf is optional (except keys, which cannot be optional). It is good to see the addition of defaults in many cases, but many unclear cases remain. E.g. leaf /igmp/global/enable is of type boolean. I understand what true and false implies for this leaf. But what does it mean if it is not set at all? Either add a default or describe the meaning in the description. Similarly, if the leaf version is not set on an igmp or mld interface, or on the interface-global level, what does that mean?
Add default. require-router-alert? explicit-tracking? exclude-lite? Many of these are used in NP-containers inheriting all the from the root, which makes the use of mandatory highly discouraged in the current form. If the RFC 8349 augmentation principles are followed, the concern around mandatory falls, and some leafs with no sensible default could be marked mandatory instead.

#5 All optional state

All state data is optional, which means a conforming server could very well decide not to implement it. E.g. discontinuity-time is optional. Should a manager count on this being available? A situation where every leaf is optional is as nice and flexible for server implementors as it is frustrating and complicated for manager implementors to consume. A YANG model is an API contract and should consider the needs of both sides. The way this has been designed reveals that no representation for the consumer side of this model has been involved in the design. I would suggest thinking through what is the most essential state data for a manager, and make some leafs mandatory.

#6 Abundant copy-paste

There is abundant repetition in the YANG module. leaf version is defined 2 times for igmp with identical definitions, and two more for mld with identical definitions. leaf enable is defined once for the interface global-level, and with identical definition on the interface local level. leaf last-member-query-interval, query-interval and half a dozen other leaves are defined twice with identical definitions.

#7 Leaf interface in the rpc clear*groups on line 1124, 1094 has type string.
Should be a leafref? Describe what values are valid. #8 Leaf group-policy, source-policy on line 486, 527, 624, 689: type string. Should be leafref?
Describe what values are valid. #9 Leaf group on line 705, 1101, 1131: Is any
ipv4/6 address ok, or only a multicast address? Model accordingly.






From: pim [mailto:[e-mail]] On Behalf Of Jan Lindblad
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2018 9:52 PM
To: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Cc: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; ietf <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
Subject: Re: [pim] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-pim-igmp-mld-yang-07

Xufeng,

Thanks for the review and valuable comments.

In regard to item #1, there was a discussion thread among the Yang Doctors, authors of RFC 8349, and Routing Area Yang Architecture Design Team, as attached below.  The discussion occurred during the review of a draft with the same issue as this one.

I see, didn't know. Good. If this has been discussed to conclusion, then you should of course go with that decision.

As mentioned earlier, there are a few other singleton protocols mapped into this structure, e.g. static. I think it would make sense to treat this the same. Principle of least astonishment.

Best Regards,
/jan


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原始邮件
发件人：XufengLiu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
收件人：Acee Lindem (acee) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>Christian Hopps <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
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日 期 ：2018年02月20日 22:30
主 题 ：RE: [yang-doctors] How to restrict to have singlecontrol-plane-protocol instance
Using "" as the name is better, but I am not sure that it is good enough. When we use ConfD to translate the model to a command line, if the option "tailf:cli-expose-key-name" is not used, we will have:

edit routing control-plane-protocols control-plane-protocol type msdp name ''"

If the option "tailf:cli-expose-key-name" is used, we will have:

edit routing control-plane-protocols control-plane-protocol msdp ''"

I am pretty sure that we would get a bug report on this, asking what is the purpose to have: name ''", and requesting a suppression on the term, but we do not have a good way to achieve.

As a comparison, the option #3 will give:

edit routing control-plane-protocols msdp

This is the only acceptable solution so far. When a model is not usable by the end-user, other considerations (such as augmentation convenience) will not matter.

Thanks,
- Xufeng

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Acee Lindem (acee) [mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>]
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 1:35 PM
> To: Christian Hopps <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
> Cc: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; yang-
> [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
> Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] How to restrict to have single control-plane-
> protocol instance
>
>
>
> On 2/19/18, 5:02 AM, "Christian Hopps" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>
>
>     Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> writes:
>
>     > Hi,
>     >
>     > "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >> All,
>     >>
>     >> As seems to be the modus operandi for YANG issues, we have 3 separate
> opinions as to how a protocol only supporting a single instance should be
> realized.
>     >>
>     >>   1. Augment the existing control plane protocols list (RFC 8022BIS)
>     >>   and specify in the description text that only a single instance is
>     >>   supported.
>     >>   2. Augment the existing control plane protocols list (RFC 8022BIS)
>     >>   and use a YANG 1.1 must() restriction as discussed by Martin and
>     >>   Lada.
>     >>   3. Augment the container one level up from the list for singleton
>     >>   protocols (suggested by Xufeng).
>
>     > But I think there was also a proposal to require the single instance
>     > to have a well-known name - but maybe this proposal is no longer on
>     > the table.
>
>     I actually liked this solution; however, instead of picking an arbitrary "well-
> known" value for name, I would specify the 0 length string instead. I think that
> reinforces the idea that this isn't actually a named instance. :)
>
>        augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>              + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>           when "derived-from-or-self(rt:type, 'msdp:msdp') and rt:name = ''"  {
>           container msdp {
>
> One benefit of this solution is that it solves Xufeng's issue of what the client uses
> as the instance name.
>
>
>     Thanks,
>     Chris.
>
>     >
>     >
>     > /martin
>     >
>     >
>     >> and #3. For #3, one determent would be that the control plane protocols
> are in a location other than where they were originally envisioned and I don't
> relish pulling RFC8022BIS off the RFC queue to document.
>     >>
>     >> Thanks,
>     >> Acee
>     >>
>     >> On 2/15/18, 8:39 AM, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>     Hi Xufeng,
>     >>
>     >>     I think the intent of 8022bis was to have all protocols under
> /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol. I agree that
> forcing a name for a single-instance is cumbersome, but I think it is too late to
> change tree hierachy organization at this point.
>     >>
>     >>     I will defer to other YDs and 8022bis authors on this.
>     >>
>     >>     Regards,
>     >>     Reshad.
>     >>
>     >>     On 2018-02-08, 9:48 AM, "Xufeng Liu" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>         Hi All,
>     >>
>     >>         I feel that such a solution is still not clean enough to outweigh the
> simple augmentation to "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/".
>     >>
>     >>         Some considerations are:
>     >>
>     >>         - Name management: Neither the operator nor the implementation
> wants to deal with the artificial name, whether it is hardcoded, user-configured,
> or system-generated. When we implement such singleton protocol, we don't
> save a name anywhere.
>     >>         - The complexity of validation: The "when" statement is an
> unnecessary expense to the user and to the implementation, especially if we
> need to check all instances.
>     >>         - Data tree query: If the singleton "MSDP" is mixed with other protocol
> instances, it is less obvious or harder to search for. Depending on the
> implementation, it would be worse if the entire list needs to be iterated.
>     >>         - Tree hierarchy  organization: I don't see too big a problem with "all
> single-instance protocols under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols and all
> the multi-instance ones under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-
> plane-protocol". If necessary, some of the names can be adjusted.
>     >>
>     >>         Thanks,
>     >>         - Xufeng
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>         > -----Original Message-----
>     >>         > From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>]
>     >>         > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:41 AM
>     >>         > To: Ladislav Lhotka <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; Martin Bjorklund <mbj@tail-
> f.com<http://f.com/>>;
>     >>         > Acee Lindem (acee) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>     >>         > Cc: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; Xufeng Liu
>     >>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>     >>         > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] How to restrict to have single control-
> plane-
>     >>         > protocol instance
>     >>         >
>     >>         > Thanks for the suggestions. I agree that hard-coding the name is a
> bad idea,
>     >>         > glad that a cleaner way of doing this is possible.
>     >>         > - We can move the must statement up to restrict max of 1 control-
> plane-
>     >>         > protocol instance of type msdp?
>     >>         > - Acee/Lada, should a note be added to section 5.3 of 8022bis
> regarding how
>     >>         > to enforce single instance? How much of a concern is the
> performance
>     >>         > impact in this specific case?
>     >>         >
>     >>         > Regards,
>     >>         > Reshad.
>     >>         >
>     >>         > On 2018-02-08, 7:02 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 12:39 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>     >>         >     > "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >>         >     > > Hi Lada,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > > On 2/8/18, 4:42 AM, "yang-doctors on behalf of Ladislav
> Lhotka"
>     >>         > <yang-docto
>     >>         >     > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> on behalf of [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 09:20 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > Hi,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Hi YDs,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > MSDP YANG authors want to enforce single-instance of
> MSDP
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > control-plane protocol. The when “rt:type =
> ‘msdp’“ allows
>     >>         > multiple
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > control-pane-protocol instances as long as they have
> different
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > rt:name. The only workaround I thought of is to have a
> when
>     >>         >     > statement
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > on the name in the top level container. This would still
> multiple
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > control-plane-protocol instance of type msdp but
> restricts the
>     >>         > name
>     >>         >     > to
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > a fixed name (msdp-protocol in this case) for the top level
> msdp
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > container to exist. Any suggestions on how to do this
> better?
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > Hard-coding a name like this is IMO a bad idea.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > Better would be to simply state in text that there MUST
> only be one
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > instance of this type.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > But you can also add a must statement that enforces this:
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >    augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >          + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >       when 'derived-from-or-self(rt:type, "msdp:msdp"'  {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >      container msdp {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >        must 'count(/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/'
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >           + '      rt:control-plane-protocol['
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >           + '        derived-from-or-sel(../rt:type, "msdp:msdp")])
> <=
>     >>         >     > 1'";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > In general, you should be careful with the usage of "count",
> since it
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > will loop through *all* instances in the list every time.  If
> the list
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > is big, this can have a performance impact.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     Instead of count(), it is possible to use the so-called
> Muenchian
>     >>         >     > method:
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >         container msdp {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >           must "not(../preceding-sibling::rt:control-plane-
> protocol["
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >              + "derived-from-or-self(rt:type, 'msdp:msdp')])";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >           ..
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >         }
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     It basically states that the control-plane-protocol containing
> the
>     >>         >     > "msdp"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     container must not be preceded with a control-plane-
> protocol entry
>     >>         > of
>     >>         >     > the
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     msdp:msdp type (or derived).
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > > This looks like an elegant solution.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > "elegant" as in "less obvious" ;)  It has the same time complexity
> as
>     >>         >     > the count() solution.
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     It should be faster on the average - it has to scan only preceding
> siblings of
>     >>         >     the MSDP protocol instance whereas count() always has to check
> *all*
>     >>         > protocol
>     >>         >     instances.
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     It is true though that in XSLT this technique can be made
> considerably
>     >>         > more
>     >>         >     efficient by using indexed keys.
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     Lada
>     >>         >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > However, since the key for the control-plane-protocol  list is
> "type
>     >>         >     > name", won't it only work if the previous sibling has a  "name"
> that
>     >>         >     > is precedes the one being added?
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > For each list entry that has this container, the expression is
>     >>         >     > evaluated.  It will scan all preceding entries and ensure that there
>     >>         >     > are none with this type.  So the order of the entries doesn't
> matter;
>     >>         >     > if there are two with the same type, one of them has to be
> before the
>     >>         >     > other.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > /martin
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > > Thanks,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > > Acee
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     Lada
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > Also note that I use derived-from-or-self instead of equality
> for the
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > identity.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > /martin
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Regards,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >      when "rt:type = ‘msdp’"  {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >       description
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >         "….”;
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >     }
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >     description "….";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >     container msdp {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >       when "../rt:name = ‘msdp-protocol’"  {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >         description
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >           "….";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >       }
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >       description "MSDP top level container.";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:25 PM
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > To: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>     >>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Cc: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
> "Mahesh
>     >>         > Sivakumar
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
> "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
> "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
> "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>     >>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com/>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>     >>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "Acee Lindem (acee)"
>     >>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Subject: Re: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy and Xufeng,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > I understand that you want only 1 MSDP instance but I
> don’t think
>     >>         >     > that
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > justifies /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols. If we do
> that we
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > will end up with all single-instance protocols under
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols and all the multi-
> instance
>     >>         >     > ones
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > under
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-
> protocol.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > I am not sure what’s the best way to enforce single-
> instance, I can
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > check with the other YDs on this topic. One way it can be
> done is
>     >>         > as
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > follows (I’ve added the when statement in bold to
> existing BFD
>     >>         >     > model),
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > it enforces that the protocol name is ‘bfdv1’. So multiple
>     >>         > instances
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > with rt:type=bfd-types:bfdv1 could be created, but only
> one of
>     >>         > these
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > instances can have the bfd container. This is probably not
> the
>     >>         > best
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > way but the point is that IMO protocols have to go under
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-
> protocol.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Regards,
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >      when "rt:type = 'bfd-types:bfdv1'"  {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >       description
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >         "This augmentation is only valid for a control-plane
>     >>         >     > protocol
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >          instance of BFD (type 'bfdv1').";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >     }
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >     description "BFD augmentation.";
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >     container bfd {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >       when "../rt:name = 'bfdv1'"  {
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >         description
>     >>         >     >
>     >>         >     > >     > >           "This augmentation is only valid for a control-plane
>     >>         >     > protocol
>     >>         >     >
>



---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Christian Hopps <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
To: Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Cc: <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
Bcc:
Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2018 05:01:55 -0500
Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] How to restrict to have single control-plane-protocol instance
Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> writes:

> Hi,
>
> "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> As seems to be the modus operandi for YANG issues, we have 3 separate opinions as to how a protocol only supporting a single instance should be realized.
>>
>>   1. Augment the existing control plane protocols list (RFC 8022BIS)
>>   and specify in the description text that only a single instance is
>>   supported.
>>   2. Augment the existing control plane protocols list (RFC 8022BIS)
>>   and use a YANG 1.1 must() restriction as discussed by Martin and
>>   Lada.
>>   3. Augment the container one level up from the list for singleton
>>   protocols (suggested by Xufeng).

> But I think there was also a proposal to require the single instance
> to have a well-known name - but maybe this proposal is no longer on
> the table.

I actually liked this solution; however, instead of picking an arbitrary "well-known" value for name, I would specify the 0 length string instead. I think that reinforces the idea that this isn't actually a named instance. :)

   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
      when "derived-from-or-self(rt:type, 'msdp:msdp') and rt:name = ''"  {
      container msdp {

Thanks,
Chris.

>
>
> /martin
>
>
>> and #3. For #3, one determent would be that the control plane protocols are in a location other than where they were originally envisioned and I don't relish pulling RFC8022BIS off the RFC queue to document.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
>>
>> On 2/15/18, 8:39 AM, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Xufeng,
>>
>>     I think the intent of 8022bis was to have all protocols under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol. I agree that forcing a name for a single-instance is cumbersome, but I think it is too late to change tree hierachy organization at this point.
>>
>>     I will defer to other YDs and 8022bis authors on this.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Reshad.
>>
>>     On 2018-02-08, 9:48 AM, "Xufeng Liu" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi All,
>>
>>         I feel that such a solution is still not clean enough to outweigh the simple augmentation to "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/".
>>
>>         Some considerations are:
>>
>>         - Name management: Neither the operator nor the implementation wants to deal with the artificial name, whether it is hardcoded, user-configured, or system-generated. When we implement such singleton protocol, we don't save a name anywhere.
>>         - The complexity of validation: The "when" statement is an unnecessary expense to the user and to the implementation, especially if we need to check all instances.
>>         - Data tree query: If the singleton "MSDP" is mixed with other protocol instances, it is less obvious or harder to search for. Depending on the implementation, it would be worse if the entire list needs to be iterated.
>>         - Tree hierarchy  organization: I don't see too big a problem with "all single-instance protocols under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols and all the multi-instance ones under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol". If necessary, some of the names can be adjusted.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         - Xufeng
>>
>>
>>         > -----Original Message-----
>>         > From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>]
>>         > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:41 AM
>>         > To: Ladislav Lhotka <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         > Acee Lindem (acee) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         > Cc: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; Xufeng Liu
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] How to restrict to have single control-plane-
>>         > protocol instance
>>         >
>>         > Thanks for the suggestions. I agree that hard-coding the name is a bad idea,
>>         > glad that a cleaner way of doing this is possible.
>>         > - We can move the must statement up to restrict max of 1 control-plane-
>>         > protocol instance of type msdp?
>>         > - Acee/Lada, should a note be added to section 5.3 of 8022bis regarding how
>>         > to enforce single instance? How much of a concern is the performance
>>         > impact in this specific case?
>>         >
>>         > Regards,
>>         > Reshad.
>>         >
>>         > On 2018-02-08, 7:02 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >     On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 12:39 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>>         >     > "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>         >     > > Hi Lada,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > On 2/8/18, 4:42 AM, "yang-doctors on behalf of Ladislav Lhotka"
>>         > <yang-docto
>>         >     > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> on behalf of [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 09:20 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Hi,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi YDs,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > MSDP YANG authors want to enforce single-instance of MSDP
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > control-plane protocol. The when “rt:type = ‘msdp’“ allows
>>         > multiple
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > control-pane-protocol instances as long as they have different
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rt:name. The only workaround I thought of is to have a when
>>         >     > statement
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > on the name in the top level container. This would still multiple
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > control-plane-protocol instance of type msdp but restricts the
>>         > name
>>         >     > to
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > a fixed name (msdp-protocol in this case) for the top level msdp
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > container to exist. Any suggestions on how to do this better?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Hard-coding a name like this is IMO a bad idea.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Better would be to simply state in text that there MUST only be one
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > instance of this type.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > But you can also add a must statement that enforces this:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >    augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >          + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >       when 'derived-from-or-self(rt:type, "msdp:msdp"'  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >      container msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >        must 'count(/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/'
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >           + '      rt:control-plane-protocol['
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >           + '        derived-from-or-sel(../rt:type, "msdp:msdp")]) <=
>>         >     > 1'";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > In general, you should be careful with the usage of "count", since it
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > will loop through *all* instances in the list every time.  If the list
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > is big, this can have a performance impact.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     Instead of count(), it is possible to use the so-called Muenchian
>>         >     > method:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >         container msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >           must "not(../preceding-sibling::rt:control-plane-protocol["
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >              + "derived-from-or-self(rt:type, 'msdp:msdp')])";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >           ..
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >         }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     It basically states that the control-plane-protocol containing the
>>         >     > "msdp"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     container must not be preceded with a control-plane-protocol entry
>>         > of
>>         >     > the
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     msdp:msdp type (or derived).
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > This looks like an elegant solution.
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > "elegant" as in "less obvious" ;)  It has the same time complexity as
>>         >     > the count() solution.
>>         >
>>         >     It should be faster on the average - it has to scan only preceding siblings of
>>         >     the MSDP protocol instance whereas count() always has to check *all*
>>         > protocol
>>         >     instances.
>>         >
>>         >     It is true though that in XSLT this technique can be made considerably
>>         > more
>>         >     efficient by using indexed keys.
>>         >
>>         >     Lada
>>         >
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > However, since the key for the control-plane-protocol  list is "type
>>         >     > name", won't it only work if the previous sibling has a  "name" that
>>         >     > is precedes the one being added?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > For each list entry that has this container, the expression is
>>         >     > evaluated.  It will scan all preceding entries and ensure that there
>>         >     > are none with this type.  So the order of the entries doesn't matter;
>>         >     > if there are two with the same type, one of them has to be before the
>>         >     > other.
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > /martin
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > Acee
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     Lada
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Also note that I use derived-from-or-self instead of equality for the
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > identity.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > /martin
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Regards,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      when "rt:type = ‘msdp’"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         "….”;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     description "….";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     container msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       when "../rt:name = ‘msdp-protocol’"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >           "….";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description "MSDP top level container.";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:25 PM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "Mahesh
>>         > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "Acee Lindem (acee)"
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: Re: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy and Xufeng,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I understand that you want only 1 MSDP instance but I don’t think
>>         >     > that
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > justifies /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols. If we do that we
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > will end up with all single-instance protocols under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols and all the multi-instance
>>         >     > ones
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I am not sure what’s the best way to enforce single-instance, I can
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > check with the other YDs on this topic. One way it can be done is
>>         > as
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > follows (I’ve added the when statement in bold to existing BFD
>>         >     > model),
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > it enforces that the protocol name is ‘bfdv1’. So multiple
>>         > instances
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > with rt:type=bfd-types:bfdv1 could be created, but only one of
>>         > these
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > instances can have the bfd container. This is probably not the
>>         > best
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > way but the point is that IMO protocols have to go under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Regards,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      when "rt:type = 'bfd-types:bfdv1'"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         "This augmentation is only valid for a control-plane
>>         >     > protocol
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >          instance of BFD (type 'bfdv1').";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     description "BFD augmentation.";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     container bfd {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       when "../rt:name = 'bfdv1'"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >           "This augmentation is only valid for a control-plane
>>         >     > protocol
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >            instance of BFD (type 'bfdv1').";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description "BFD top level container.";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:38 AM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "Mahesh
>>         > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)" <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: RE: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks for the updates.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > In RFC8022bis, the rt:type is defined under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol.
>>         > If
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > we augment /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols, the “when”
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statement will not be valid, because it cannot find the rt:type. I
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > don’t think that we need the “when” statement. The container
>>         > with
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > “presence” will serve the purpose of the identity. We can simply
>>         >     > take
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > out the “when” statement and the definition of the MSDP identity.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Xufeng
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> [mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>]
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 3:36 AM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: RE: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Xufeng and Reshad,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I am sorry for forgetting the point. I updated the YANG model.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > If no one has comments on it I'd like to submit the new version. :-)
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sandy
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 原始邮件
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 发件人：
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 收件人： <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         > 张征00007940;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     > m>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;徐本
>>         > 崇10065053;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com><mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent>.
>>         >     > com>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 日 期 ：2018年02月03日 01:21
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 主 题 ：RE: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy and Reshad,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > The reason that we used to augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols, instead of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol,
>>         > is
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > that we do not allow multiple instances of MSDP.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Xufeng
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>]
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 12:08 PM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         > Xufeng
>>         >     > Liu
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>; Mahesh
>>         > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     > >;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com><mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent.c<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent.c>
>>         >     > om>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: Re: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I don’t know what warning you are getting now but from a quick
>>         > look
>>         >     > at
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > the revision you sent I see couple of issues.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      identity msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >        base "rt:routing-protocol";  <== should be rt:control-plane-
>>         >     > protocol
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >        description "MSDP";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <snip>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      /*
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       * Data nodes
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       */
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-
>>         >     > protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         when "rt:type = 'MSDP'" { <== should be "rt:type =
>>         >     > 'msdp:msdp'"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > HTH,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From:
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Date: Friday, February 2, 2018 at 4:37 AM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>, "Mahesh
>>         >     > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)"
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     > m>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     > m>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com><mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent>.
>>         >     > com>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com><mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent>.
>>         >     > com>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: FW: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi all,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I deleted some groupings and make the model more clear.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > And I updated the decription of (peer-as, up-time, expire).  Please
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > review it.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > A warning is still existing about rt:type:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 5, - augment of control-plane-protocols is incorrect. There should
>>         >     > be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > an identity msdp with
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > base "rt:routing-protocol" and then augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > with a when
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statement. Take a look at OSPF YANG for an example.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added the identity and modify the augmentation, but it
>>         >     > seems
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > like there is no MSDP register in rt:type.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > How can we register it?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sandy
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 原始邮件
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 发件人：张征00007940
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 收件人： <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     > m>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;徐本
>>         > 崇10065053;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<http://lucent.com><mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent>.
>>         >     > com>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 抄送人： <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]><mailto:[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 日 期 ：2018年01月29日  17:04
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 主 题 ：Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi all,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > YANG doctor Reshad had finished the early review about MSDP
>>         > YANG.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I finished the preliminary modification version, please review it.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I think some advices from Reshad should be discussed:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 1, - Not sure why peer-as is needed. Don't see it in RFC3618.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 2, - leaf up-time, what's meant by "up time" in the description? Is
>>         >     > it
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > time it's
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > been created?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 3, - description for leaf expire seems wrong.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: These items (peer-as, up-time, expire) doesn't existed in
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > RFC3618, are these unnecessary? Please write down your
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > description if you insist on it. If nobody insist on it, should we
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > delete them?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 4, - Groupings are used for data which is used only once. Is this
>>         >     > done
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > on purpose or
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > was the intention to use those groupings more than once?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: These eight groupings are used only once, should we
>>         > change
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > them to container?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > authentication-container;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > global-config-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > peer-config-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > peer-state-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > sa-cache-state-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statistics-container
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statistics-error
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statistics-queue
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 5, - augment of control-plane-protocols is incorrect. There should
>>         >     > be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > an identity msdp with
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > base "rt:routing-protocol" and then augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > with a when
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statement. Take a look at OSPF YANG for an example.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added the identity and modify the augmentation, but it
>>         >     > seems
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > like there is no MSDP register in rt:type.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > How can we register it?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Most of the suggestion is adopted. The modification detail pls see
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > below:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Too many features (17)! Every piece of config has an if-feature
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - statement.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Some of the configs (timers?) should be part of most/basic
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > implementations, for
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > other config (e.g. authentication) I can see why a feature would
>>         > be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > used.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified the three timers (connect-retry, hold, keepalive)
>>         >     > to
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > fixed format.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > -“import ietf-yang-types” should have a reference to RFC6991
>>         > (see
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > -section 4.7 of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rfc6087bis-15)
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - “import ietf-inet-types” should have a reference to RFC6991
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - “import ietf-routing” should have a reference to RFC8022
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - “import ietf-interfaces” should have a reference to RFC7223
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - "import ietf-ip" should have a reference to RFC7277
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - "import ietf-key-chain" should have a reference to RFC8177
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added all the references above.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - organization s/"...PIM( Protocols for IP Multicast ) Working
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Group"/"...PIM (Protocols for IP Multicast) Working Group"?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Remove WG Chairs from contact information as per Appendix C
>>         > of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - No copyright in the module description, see Appendix of
>>         > 6087bis-15
>>         >     > for
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - a module description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > example
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Module description must contain reference to RFC, see
>>         > Appendix C
>>         >     > of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Removed WG chairs and add copyright from Appendix of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rfc6087bis. Added reference to RFC3618.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - grouping authentication-container. key-chain and password
>>         > both
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > use if-feature peer-key-chain.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Removed the if-feature peer-key-chain from password.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - grouping connect-source. The name is not very
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > descriptive. Should this be something along the lines of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > tcp-connection-source?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Changed the name "connect-source" to "tcp-connection-
>>         >     > source".
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - grouping global-state-attributes has nothing
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Deleted the grouping.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Some of the descriptions are
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > pretty terse. e.g. for rpf-peer it says "RPF peer.". In a case like
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > this
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > consider adding more descriptive text or a reference to the
>>         > proper
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > section in
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > RFC3618
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added more description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - peer-as (Autonomous System Number) is defined as type string,
>>         >     > should
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > be of type as-number in ietf-inet-types?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified to inet types.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - keepalive-interval depends on holdtime-interval.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > There should be "if-feature peer-timer-holdtime" under leaf
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > keepalive-interval
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > or change the must statement to (assuming we keep the 2
>>         > features):
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   must "(not ../holdtime-interval) or (. > 1 and . <
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   ../holdtime-interval)".
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified the features to fixed format.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - leaf up-time: s/sa cache/SA cache/
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - leaf peer-learned-from, change description from "The address
>>         > of
>>         >     > peer
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - that we learned
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > this SA from ." to "The address of the peer that we learned this SA
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > from."
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - RPC leaf group, I thought we had a type for IP multicast address?
>>         >     > If
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - not, it should be done?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Yes. Added the rt-type reference to RFC8294.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - s/msdp/MSDP/
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - In rpc msdp-clear-peer, s/Clears the session to the peer./Clears
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > the TCP connection to the peer./
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - In rpc msdp-clear-sa-cache, why have the enum '*' for
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - source-addr. Can't the same technique as for peer-address be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > used?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - msdp prefix not needed in rpc names
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Done.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - MSDP peers are configured in a mesh-group, did the authors
>>         >     > consider
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - adding state per mesh-group, e.g. all the
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > peers in a particular mesh-group?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: IMO it is unnecessary because the states of peers is not
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > unified in a mesh-group.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > General:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Per Appendix B of rfc6087bis-15: "that all YANG modules
>>         > containing
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > imported items are cited as normative reference". So RFCs 6991,
>>         >     > 7223,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 7277, 8022 and 8177 should be included in the normative
>>         > reference
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > section.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Section 3 "the irrelevant information", add a
>>         >     > reference/explanation
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - for what
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > the irrelevant information is. s/the irrelevant
>>         >     > information/irrelevant
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > information/?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Changed the description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Section 5 should give a brief description of what the RPCs do.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added some description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Section 6 any plans for notifications? If not, just say so.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Done.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Need Security
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Considerations, see sections 3.7 and 6 of rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added security consideration section.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Need IANA Considerations, see section 3.8 of rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added IANA considerations.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Need license in YANG module,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > see appendix B of rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added the YANG module description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sandy
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
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>>         >     >
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Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]> writes:

> Hi,
>
> "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>> All,
>>
>> As seems to be the modus operandi for YANG issues, we have 3 separate opinions as to how a protocol only supporting a single instance should be realized.
>>
>>   1. Augment the existing control plane protocols list (RFC 8022BIS)
>>   and specify in the description text that only a single instance is
>>   supported.
>>   2. Augment the existing control plane protocols list (RFC 8022BIS)
>>   and use a YANG 1.1 must() restriction as discussed by Martin and
>>   Lada.
>>   3. Augment the container one level up from the list for singleton
>>   protocols (suggested by Xufeng).

> But I think there was also a proposal to require the single instance
> to have a well-known name - but maybe this proposal is no longer on
> the table.

I actually liked this solution; however, instead of picking an arbitrary "well-known" value for name, I would specify the 0 length string instead. I think that reinforces the idea that this isn't actually a named instance. :)

   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
      when "derived-from-or-self(rt:type, 'msdp:msdp') and rt:name = ''"  {
      container msdp {

Thanks,
Chris.

>
>
> /martin
>
>
>> and #3. For #3, one determent would be that the control plane protocols are in a location other than where they were originally envisioned and I don't relish pulling RFC8022BIS off the RFC queue to document.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Acee
>>
>> On 2/15/18, 8:39 AM, "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Xufeng,
>>
>>     I think the intent of 8022bis was to have all protocols under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol. I agree that forcing a name for a single-instance is cumbersome, but I think it is too late to change tree hierachy organization at this point.
>>
>>     I will defer to other YDs and 8022bis authors on this.
>>
>>     Regards,
>>     Reshad.
>>
>>     On 2018-02-08, 9:48 AM, "Xufeng Liu" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>
>>         Hi All,
>>
>>         I feel that such a solution is still not clean enough to outweigh the simple augmentation to "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/".
>>
>>         Some considerations are:
>>
>>         - Name management: Neither the operator nor the implementation wants to deal with the artificial name, whether it is hardcoded, user-configured, or system-generated. When we implement such singleton protocol, we don't save a name anywhere.
>>         - The complexity of validation: The "when" statement is an unnecessary expense to the user and to the implementation, especially if we need to check all instances.
>>         - Data tree query: If the singleton "MSDP" is mixed with other protocol instances, it is less obvious or harder to search for. Depending on the implementation, it would be worse if the entire list needs to be iterated.
>>         - Tree hierarchy  organization: I don't see too big a problem with "all single-instance protocols under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols and all the multi-instance ones under /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol". If necessary, some of the names can be adjusted.
>>
>>         Thanks,
>>         - Xufeng
>>
>>
>>         > -----Original Message-----
>>         > From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>         > Sent: Thursday, February 8, 2018 9:41 AM
>>         > To: Ladislav Lhotka <[e-mail]>; Martin Bjorklund <[e-mail]>;
>>         > Acee Lindem (acee) <[e-mail]>
>>         > Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail]; Xufeng Liu
>>         > <[e-mail]>
>>         > Subject: Re: [yang-doctors] How to restrict to have single control-plane-
>>         > protocol instance
>>         >
>>         > Thanks for the suggestions. I agree that hard-coding the name is a bad idea,
>>         > glad that a cleaner way of doing this is possible.
>>         > - We can move the must statement up to restrict max of 1 control-plane-
>>         > protocol instance of type msdp?
>>         > - Acee/Lada, should a note be added to section 5.3 of 8022bis regarding how
>>         > to enforce single instance? How much of a concern is the performance
>>         > impact in this specific case?
>>         >
>>         > Regards,
>>         > Reshad.
>>         >
>>         > On 2018-02-08, 7:02 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>         >
>>         >     On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 12:39 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>>         >     > "Acee Lindem (acee)" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>         >     > > Hi Lada,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > On 2/8/18, 4:42 AM, "yang-doctors on behalf of Ladislav Lhotka"
>>         > <yang-docto
>>         >     > [e-mail] on behalf of [e-mail]> wrote:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     On Thu, 2018-02-08 at 09:20 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Hi,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]> wrote:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi YDs,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > MSDP YANG authors want to enforce single-instance of MSDP
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > control-plane protocol. The when “rt:type = ‘msdp’“ allows
>>         > multiple
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > control-pane-protocol instances as long as they have different
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rt:name. The only workaround I thought of is to have a when
>>         >     > statement
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > on the name in the top level container. This would still multiple
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > control-plane-protocol instance of type msdp but restricts the
>>         > name
>>         >     > to
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > a fixed name (msdp-protocol in this case) for the top level msdp
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > container to exist. Any suggestions on how to do this better?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Hard-coding a name like this is IMO a bad idea.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Better would be to simply state in text that there MUST only be one
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > instance of this type.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > But you can also add a must statement that enforces this:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >    augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >          + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >       when 'derived-from-or-self(rt:type, "msdp:msdp"'  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >      container msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >        must 'count(/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/'
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >           + '      rt:control-plane-protocol['
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >           + '        derived-from-or-sel(../rt:type, "msdp:msdp")]) <=
>>         >     > 1'";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > In general, you should be careful with the usage of "count", since it
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > will loop through *all* instances in the list every time.  If the list
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > is big, this can have a performance impact.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     Instead of count(), it is possible to use the so-called Muenchian
>>         >     > method:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >         container msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >           must "not(../preceding-sibling::rt:control-plane-protocol["
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >              + "derived-from-or-self(rt:type, 'msdp:msdp')])";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >           ..
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >         }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     It basically states that the control-plane-protocol containing the
>>         >     > "msdp"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     container must not be preceded with a control-plane-protocol entry
>>         > of
>>         >     > the
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     msdp:msdp type (or derived).
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > This looks like an elegant solution.
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > "elegant" as in "less obvious" ;)  It has the same time complexity as
>>         >     > the count() solution.
>>         >
>>         >     It should be faster on the average - it has to scan only preceding siblings of
>>         >     the MSDP protocol instance whereas count() always has to check *all*
>>         > protocol
>>         >     instances.
>>         >
>>         >     It is true though that in XSLT this technique can be made considerably
>>         > more
>>         >     efficient by using indexed keys.
>>         >
>>         >     Lada
>>         >
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > However, since the key for the control-plane-protocol  list is "type
>>         >     > name", won't it only work if the previous sibling has a  "name" that
>>         >     > is precedes the one being added?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > For each list entry that has this container, the expression is
>>         >     > evaluated.  It will scan all preceding entries and ensure that there
>>         >     > are none with this type.  So the order of the entries doesn't matter;
>>         >     > if there are two with the same type, one of them has to be before the
>>         >     > other.
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > /martin
>>         >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > > Acee
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     Lada
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > Also note that I use derived-from-or-self instead of equality for the
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > identity.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > /martin
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Regards,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      when "rt:type = ‘msdp’"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         "….”;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     description "….";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     container msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       when "../rt:name = ‘msdp-protocol’"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >           "….";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description "MSDP top level container.";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 at 6:25 PM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]>,
>>         > "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "Mahesh
>>         > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)" <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>,
>>         > "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "Acee Lindem (acee)"
>>         > <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: Re: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy and Xufeng,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I understand that you want only 1 MSDP instance but I don’t think
>>         >     > that
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > justifies /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols. If we do that we
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > will end up with all single-instance protocols under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols and all the multi-instance
>>         >     > ones
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I am not sure what’s the best way to enforce single-instance, I can
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > check with the other YDs on this topic. One way it can be done is
>>         > as
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > follows (I’ve added the when statement in bold to existing BFD
>>         >     > model),
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > it enforces that the protocol name is ‘bfdv1’. So multiple
>>         > instances
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > with rt:type=bfd-types:bfdv1 could be created, but only one of
>>         > these
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > instances can have the bfd container. This is probably not the
>>         > best
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > way but the point is that IMO protocols have to go under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Regards,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   augment "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         + "rt:control-plane-protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      when "rt:type = 'bfd-types:bfdv1'"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         "This augmentation is only valid for a control-plane
>>         >     > protocol
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >          instance of BFD (type 'bfdv1').";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     description "BFD augmentation.";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >     container bfd {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       when "../rt:name = 'bfdv1'"  {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >           "This augmentation is only valid for a control-plane
>>         >     > protocol
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >            instance of BFD (type 'bfdv1').";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       description "BFD top level container.";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Date: Monday, February 5, 2018 at 9:38 AM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)" <[e-mail]>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]" <[e-mail]>, "Mahesh
>>         > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)" <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>, "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>,
>>         > "[e-mail]"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: RE: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks for the updates.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > In RFC8022bis, the rt:type is defined under
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol.
>>         > If
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > we augment /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols, the “when”
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statement will not be valid, because it cannot find the rt:type. I
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > don’t think that we need the “when” statement. The container
>>         > with
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > “presence” will serve the purpose of the identity. We can simply
>>         >     > take
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > out the “when” statement and the definition of the MSDP identity.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Xufeng
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: [e-mail] [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sent: Monday, February 5, 2018 3:36 AM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: Xufeng Liu <[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: [e-mail]; [e-mail];
>>         > [e-mail];
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]; [e-mail];
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]; [e-mail];
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]; [e-mail]
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: RE: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Xufeng and Reshad,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I am sorry for forgetting the point. I updated the YANG model.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > If no one has comments on it I'd like to submit the new version. :-)
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sandy
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 原始邮件
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 发件人：
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 收件人： <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         > 张征00007940;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]
>>         >     > m>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;徐本
>>         > 崇10065053;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent.
>>         >     > com>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 日 期 ：2018年02月03日 01:21
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 主 题 ：RE: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy and Reshad,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > The reason that we used to augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols, instead of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > /rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol,
>>         > is
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > that we do not allow multiple instances of MSDP.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Xufeng
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From: Reshad Rahman (rrahman) [mailto:[e-mail]]
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sent: Friday, February 2, 2018 12:08 PM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         > Xufeng
>>         >     > Liu
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>; Mahesh
>>         > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]
>>         >     > >;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent.c
>>         >     > om>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: Re: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi Sandy,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I don’t know what warning you are getting now but from a quick
>>         > look
>>         >     > at
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > the revision you sent I see couple of issues.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      identity msdp {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >        base "rt:routing-protocol";  <== should be rt:control-plane-
>>         >     > protocol
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >        description "MSDP";
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      }
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <snip>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      /*
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       * Data nodes
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >       */
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >      "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-
>>         >     > protocol" {
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >         when "rt:type = 'MSDP'" { <== should be "rt:type =
>>         >     > 'msdp:msdp'"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > HTH,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Reshad.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > From:
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Date: Friday, February 2, 2018 at 4:37 AM
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > To: "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>, "Mahesh
>>         >     > Sivakumar
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > (masivaku)"
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]
>>         >     > m>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]
>>         >     > m>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
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>>         >     > com>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent.
>>         >     > com>>,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Cc: "Reshad Rahman (rrahman)"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Subject: FW: Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi all,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I deleted some groupings and make the model more clear.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > And I updated the decription of (peer-as, up-time, expire).  Please
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > review it.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > A warning is still existing about rt:type:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 5, - augment of control-plane-protocols is incorrect. There should
>>         >     > be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > an identity msdp with
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > base "rt:routing-protocol" and then augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > with a when
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statement. Take a look at OSPF YANG for an example.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added the identity and modify the augmentation, but it
>>         >     > seems
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > like there is no MSDP register in rt:type.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > How can we register it?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sandy
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 原始邮件
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 发件人：张征00007940
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 收件人： <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]
>>         >     > m>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;徐本
>>         > 崇10065053;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-
>>         > lucent.com<mailto:tanmoy.kundu@alcatel-lucent.
>>         >     > com>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 抄送人： <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 日 期 ：2018年01月29日  17:04
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 主 题 ：Hi all, about the modification of MSDP YANG
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Hi all,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > YANG doctor Reshad had finished the early review about MSDP
>>         > YANG.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I finished the preliminary modification version, please review it.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > I think some advices from Reshad should be discussed:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 1, - Not sure why peer-as is needed. Don't see it in RFC3618.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 2, - leaf up-time, what's meant by "up time" in the description? Is
>>         >     > it
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > time it's
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > been created?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 3, - description for leaf expire seems wrong.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: These items (peer-as, up-time, expire) doesn't existed in
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > RFC3618, are these unnecessary? Please write down your
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > description if you insist on it. If nobody insist on it, should we
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > delete them?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 4, - Groupings are used for data which is used only once. Is this
>>         >     > done
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > on purpose or
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > was the intention to use those groupings more than once?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: These eight groupings are used only once, should we
>>         > change
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > them to container?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > authentication-container;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > global-config-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > peer-config-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > peer-state-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > sa-cache-state-attributes;
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statistics-container
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statistics-error
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statistics-queue
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 5, - augment of control-plane-protocols is incorrect. There should
>>         >     > be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > an identity msdp with
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > base "rt:routing-protocol" and then augment
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > "/rt:routing/rt:control-plane-protocols/rt:control-plane-protocol"
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > with a when
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > statement. Take a look at OSPF YANG for an example.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added the identity and modify the augmentation, but it
>>         >     > seems
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > like there is no MSDP register in rt:type.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > How can we register it?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Most of the suggestion is adopted. The modification detail pls see
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > below:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Too many features (17)! Every piece of config has an if-feature
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - statement.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Some of the configs (timers?) should be part of most/basic
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > implementations, for
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > other config (e.g. authentication) I can see why a feature would
>>         > be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > used.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified the three timers (connect-retry, hold, keepalive)
>>         >     > to
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > fixed format.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > -“import ietf-yang-types” should have a reference to RFC6991
>>         > (see
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > -section 4.7 of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rfc6087bis-15)
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - “import ietf-inet-types” should have a reference to RFC6991
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - “import ietf-routing” should have a reference to RFC8022
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - “import ietf-interfaces” should have a reference to RFC7223
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - "import ietf-ip" should have a reference to RFC7277
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - "import ietf-key-chain" should have a reference to RFC8177
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added all the references above.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - organization s/"...PIM( Protocols for IP Multicast ) Working
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Group"/"...PIM (Protocols for IP Multicast) Working Group"?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Remove WG Chairs from contact information as per Appendix C
>>         > of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - No copyright in the module description, see Appendix of
>>         > 6087bis-15
>>         >     > for
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - a module description
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > example
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Module description must contain reference to RFC, see
>>         > Appendix C
>>         >     > of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Removed WG chairs and add copyright from Appendix of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > rfc6087bis. Added reference to RFC3618.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - grouping authentication-container. key-chain and password
>>         > both
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > use if-feature peer-key-chain.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Removed the if-feature peer-key-chain from password.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - grouping connect-source. The name is not very
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > descriptive. Should this be something along the lines of
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > tcp-connection-source?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Changed the name "connect-source" to "tcp-connection-
>>         >     > source".
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - grouping global-state-attributes has nothing
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Deleted the grouping.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Some of the descriptions are
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > pretty terse. e.g. for rpf-peer it says "RPF peer.". In a case like
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > this
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > consider adding more descriptive text or a reference to the
>>         > proper
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > section in
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > RFC3618
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added more description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - peer-as (Autonomous System Number) is defined as type string,
>>         >     > should
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > be of type as-number in ietf-inet-types?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified to inet types.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - keepalive-interval depends on holdtime-interval.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > There should be "if-feature peer-timer-holdtime" under leaf
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > keepalive-interval
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > or change the must statement to (assuming we keep the 2
>>         > features):
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   must "(not ../holdtime-interval) or (. > 1 and . <
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >   ../holdtime-interval)".
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified the features to fixed format.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - leaf up-time: s/sa cache/SA cache/
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - leaf peer-learned-from, change description from "The address
>>         > of
>>         >     > peer
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - that we learned
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > this SA from ." to "The address of the peer that we learned this SA
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > from."
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Modified.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - RPC leaf group, I thought we had a type for IP multicast address?
>>         >     > If
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - not, it should be done?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Yes. Added the rt-type reference to RFC8294.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - s/msdp/MSDP/
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - In rpc msdp-clear-peer, s/Clears the session to the peer./Clears
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > the TCP connection to the peer./
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - In rpc msdp-clear-sa-cache, why have the enum '*' for
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - source-addr. Can't the same technique as for peer-address be
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > used?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - msdp prefix not needed in rpc names
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Done.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - MSDP peers are configured in a mesh-group, did the authors
>>         >     > consider
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - adding state per mesh-group, e.g. all the
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > peers in a particular mesh-group?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: IMO it is unnecessary because the states of peers is not
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > unified in a mesh-group.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > General:
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Per Appendix B of rfc6087bis-15: "that all YANG modules
>>         > containing
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > imported items are cited as normative reference". So RFCs 6991,
>>         >     > 7223,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > 7277, 8022 and 8177 should be included in the normative
>>         > reference
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > section.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Section 3 "the irrelevant information", add a
>>         >     > reference/explanation
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - for what
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > the irrelevant information is. s/the irrelevant
>>         >     > information/irrelevant
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > information/?
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Changed the description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Section 5 should give a brief description of what the RPCs do.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added some description.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Section 6 any plans for notifications? If not, just say so.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Done.
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Need Security
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Considerations, see sections 3.7 and 6 of rfc6087bis-15
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added security consideration section.
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>>         >     > >     > >
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Need IANA Considerations, see section 3.8 of rfc6087bis-15
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added IANA considerations.
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > - Need license in YANG module,
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > see appendix B of rfc6087bis-15
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > [Sandy]: Added the YANG module description.
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>>         >     > >     > >
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Thanks,
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>>         >     > >     > >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > > Sandy
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>>         >     > >     >
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     > _______________________________________________
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>>         >     > >     --
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     Ladislav Lhotka
>>         >     >
>>         >     > >     Head, CZ.NIC Labs
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>>         >     > >     PGP Key ID: 0xB8F92B08A9F76C67
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>>         >     --
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>>         >     Head, CZ.NIC Labs
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