SIP Addressing Limitations
Tony Li <tli@cisco.com> Mon, 24 May 1993 20:24 UTC
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From: Tony Li <tli@cisco.com>
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In-Reply-To: "William Allen Simpson"'s message of Mon,
24 May 93 11:52:05 EDT <1211.bill.simpson@um.cc.umich.edu>
Subject: SIP Addressing Limitations
> > It amuses me greatly that there's anyone who still seriously > > believes that network topology, and geography, are even remotely > > related when it comes to international connections. > > Apparently I am in good company. With Rehkter, Li, and the > CIDR luminaries. > > Excuse me, but you have misread all of CIDR if you believe that to be > true. > I was discombobulated and enervated to see this line from Tony. The plan is largely based on his previous writings. Apparently, having convinced me, he has repudiated his own previous thoughts. Bill, You're missing something here. Topology is NOT tied to international connections. The concept of "international" is a political concept that has limited bearing on the problem in that it affects the cost of links. Topology seems to be currently (and may continue to be) affected by significant geographical constraints, such as oceans. The concept of "addressing" must be tied to topology for aggregation to provide useful results for IPv4. However, "address administration" is primarily a political problem. As such, it is indeed (unfortunately) tied to international constraints. Thus, the body performing the administration is political, but the addresses being administered are topologically assigned. I think that you need to be very clear on the difference between politically based addressing and politically based address administration. The former is foolish. The latter is an unfortunate necessity. In any case, any statement to the effect that I agree with ANY facet of your addressing plan, or any thoughts or philosophy in constructing it is at best wildly erroneous. As you can see, the draft peters out, so I'm not entirely sure where it is leading (probably an editting error when he submitted the draft). Your copy is corrupt. The version that I have via shadowed anonymous FTP is complete. Tony
- Re: SIP Addressing Limitations William Allen Simpson
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