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Re: [pkix] possible new pkix and/or smime work

Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com> Thu, 24 March 2016 13:29 UTC

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To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>, pkix <pkix@ietf.org>
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From: Anders Rundgren <anders.rundgren.net@gmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:28:35 +0100
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Subject: Re: [pkix] possible new pkix and/or smime work
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On 2016-03-24 14:22, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>
>
> On 24/03/16 13:18, Anders Rundgren wrote:
>> On 2016-03-23 21:35, Stephen Farrell wrote:
>>>
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I'm finding it hard to evaluate the discussion as to whether
>>> there's new work folks want to do here that'd justify forming
>>> a (coherent) WG and that'd result in likely implementation and
>>> deployment. I expect others may be similarly uncertain.
>>
>> This discussion lacks an important element; the browser vendors'
>> deprecation of client-side certificates.
>
> I don't agree that that's relevant to whether or not there's new
> work people want to do in a revived PKIX/SMIME extension WG. That
> is because nobody so far wanted to do work related to web user
> authentication. So while such changes might be interesting they are
> just not relevant to this discussion as far as I can see.

How do you anticipate that S/MIME certificates are distributed?
On smart cards?  Well, then we are talking about a more scoped
scenario which (for example) eliminates Yahoo! from the plot.

>
> S.
>
>
>> Microsoft have already removed support for on-line provisioning of
>> certificates in Edge (the successor of Internet Explorer) and now Google
>> and Mozilla have also joined the club:
>>
>> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-tag/2016Mar/0001.html
>>
>> Anders
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Would someone be willing to volunteer to act in a slightly
>>> chair-like manner and try to summarise the discussion in a
>>> way that might help us judge the above?
>>>
>>> I think that might help us to e.g. organise a bit of a bar
>>> BoF or collective chat amongst those interested while a bunch
>>> of us are in B-A and on the list prior to that.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> S.
>>>
>>> PS; If you are willing to do that but shy, feel free to send to
>>> me offlist and I can pretend I did the work:-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
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