Re: [pkix] [saag] Fwd: [Spasm] side meeting at IETF95 on possible PKIX/SMIME work (and new spasm list)

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Wed, 20 April 2016 18:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pkix] [saag] Fwd: [Spasm] side meeting at IETF95 on possible PKIX/SMIME work (and new spasm list)
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FYI - discussion of a potential charter is starting now on that
list [1] please join in there if interested.

S.

[1] https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/spasm/current/msg00006.html

On 15/04/16 15:17, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: [Spasm] side meeting at IETF95 on possible PKIX/SMIME work (and
> new spasm list)
> Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2016 15:16:00 +0100
> From: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
> To: spasm@ietf.org
> 
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> About 10 of us who were at IETF95 had a side meeting to continue
> the recent discussion about potential work items that would have
> been handled in the PKIX and SMIME working groups before those
> closed. A number of such work items in this space have recently
> been proposed on the PKIX and SMIME mailing lists.
> 
> In the discussion we concluded that it might be a good plan to
> try charter a WG to (initially) handle a small number of these
> tasks. We also recognised that there is a bit of a history in
> this space of people proposing work that doesn't end up being
> implemented and deployed (and I'm as guilty of that as anyone;-)
> so we wanted to not do that this time around.
> 
> To that end I said that I'd be happy to help with seeing if we
> have consensus to charter a working group to tackle a smallish
> list of specific work items where:
> 
> - the proposal is sane
> - we're pretty confident the proposal will be implemented in a
>   real way (not a toy, but doesn't have to be on every phone)
> - to the extent we can, we think there's a good chance that the
>   proposal will be deployed
> - each proposal has an I-D already published that is called out
>   in the charter as the starting point for the work
> 
> If we start that WG and if it turns out to do good work well and
> in a timely fashion then I'd guess that it could be re-chartered
> to add additional items that meet the above criteria.
> 
> We also figured that a new list (spasm [1]) would be a better way
> to handle this as it crosses two previous lists (which will
> remain open) with much broader topics.
> 
> Russ Housley, Stefan Santesson and Wei Chuang have agreed to try
> to craft charter text for that so they'll send that to the spasm
> list [1] in a few days once folks have had a chance to sign up.
> So please hold off discussion of this for a few days and then
> continue the discussion on the spasm list.
> 
> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> [1]  https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/spasm
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