Re: [pntaw] New version of TURN over websockets draft

Oleg Moskalenko <mom040267@gmail.com> Fri, 20 September 2013 22:01 UTC

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Subject: Re: [pntaw] New version of TURN over websockets draft
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I think that we either have to remove RFC 6062 altogether or allow
Websockets for both TURN and DATA connections. If we allow Websockets for
TURN but we do not allow it for data then it would be useless, I believe.

REgards,
Oleg


On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 2:25 PM, Sergio Garcia Murillo <
sergio.garcia.murillo@gmail.com> wrote:

>  So, would we then just keep the websocket connection only for the TURN
> connection in RFC 6062 and let the client data connection stay as it is
> (ie. in TCP)? As:
>
>
>                         +-------------+
>           TURN Control  |             |
>          +--------------+ TURN Server +----------------+
>          |    WS/WSS    |             |    TCP         |
>          |              +------+------+                |
>          |                     |                       |
>          |                     |                       |
>      +---+---+   Client Data   |                   +---+---+
>      | Alice |-----------------+                   |  Bob  |
>      +-------+       TCP                           +-------+
>
> Or what should we do with the client data connection instead?
>
> Best regards
> Sergio
> El 20/09/2013 23:12, Oleg Moskalenko escribió:
>
>  RFC 6062 is not very important but I cannot say that it is not relevant.
> For the purpose of the new proposal we do not make a distinction between
> RFC 5766 and RFC 6062 - this new proposal is about a new TURN transport
> (Websockets). This transport is supposed to work universally in all
> accepted TURN RFCs. So it would be unnatural and illogical to remove RFC
> 6062 from the draft.
>
>
>