Re: Transition
"Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf@CNRI.Reston.VA.US> Mon, 09 November 1992 14:19 UTC
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From: "Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
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Stef, et al, The IETF secretariat has 5 full-time support staff. The RFC-editor occupies more than one person. Assembling Internet Monthly and Research Monthly occupies more people. This administrative effort needs to be supported if the IETF is to get its work done. An IETF meeting is roughly the size of, say, an annual SIGCOMM conference, but much more complex because of the working group scheduling, tracking of attendance, capture of minutes/notes, and so on. For a long time, the US Federal Government has sponsored much of the effort, both technical and administrative, for this process to work. Recently, the view has been taken that this whole process benefits a number of parties in industry and many outside the US. As a consequence, the Government would like to see a broader base of support for this work. This is a reasonable position, in my opinion, and not unexpected. Formation of the Internet Society was, in part, motivated by the belief that such an organization could eventually undertake to provide support for the IETF operation, relieving in increasing degree dependence on the US Government. In addition to that important concern, it has become increasingly apparent that the activities of the IAB and IETF have significant financial impact in the market place. Competitive interests come into play and create tension with more altruistic, collaborative motives (e.g., the good of the Internet community). These tensions lead to increasing liability risks (anti-trust complaints, unfair competition, abuse of standards-making processes). Without some kind of institutional framework, everyone involved in fashioning the standards used by the Internet is exposed to unlimited liability. The Internet Society, as an organization, and the trustees, as individuals, do not have any particular axe to grind with regard to the work of the IAB and IETF. Their focus of attention is the successful growth of a professional membership organization which can support the IAB and IETF work among a number of other things, including publications, conferences, workshops, volunteer programs and general education of the public about the Internet. It's my opinion that this is really needed. Trying to make the IETF work on a purely volunteer basis is unlikely, unless the volunteers can do this work on a full-time basis. Moreover, it takes a well-knit team to carry out all of the tasks involved and a distributed set of volunteers may not be able to fill the bill. The IEEE and the ACM are example professional organizations which make use of full-time staff to assist the efforts of many volunteers and this seems to me a reasonable model of how we should proceed with regard to support for the IETF. A lot of people have spent a great deal of time and effort, including many members of the industry spawned by Internet, academia and members of government, to organize the Internet Society and to provide it with support towards reaching these various objectives. The hundreds of people who are involved in IETF deserve the best support possible. I hope that you and other participants in the IETF will be able to continue your work. You need ISOC support to do it and ISOC needs your support in return. Vint
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