David's comments
Carl Malamud <malamud@csn.org> Tue, 01 December 1992 06:50 UTC
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From: Carl Malamud <malamud@csn.org>
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Subject: David's comments
Cc: dbrandin@interop.com, poised@CNRI.Reston.VA.US
Vint - I'm not sure that forwarding David Brandin's comments to the entire POISED list was fair to either David or to those of us who have been trying to hold together a fragile consensus. The comments that David made are useful and are obviously based on experience. However, they are out of context and are made without a real understanding of the situation. The document that David reviewed was not meant to be a set of by-laws. Instead, the document posted on the POISED list was simply a summary of the points of agreement that were reached. It is widely recognized that somebody (you? :) needs to head an effort to put together a real set of by-laws, a charter, and the other administrivia. As to the substance of David's comments, I sympathize with his cursory impressions, but it seems to me that perhaps the ACM is not the ideal model to be emulating in this situation. Instead, we should look at the IETF, IAB, and ISOC and try to forge a system that best reflects our own political realities. For example, I agree that chairing of the nominations committee should not, in ideal circumstances, be the province of a staff member. However, the degree of tension inside of our community was *so* high over the last two months that Mike Roberts was the only name/position/procedure we could find that wasn't a point of contention. Rather than dwell on a suboptimal procedure for the head of the nominating committee, we moved on to the next point. I hope you'll agree that the important thing to do was break the situation we found ourselves in where political tension was so high that technical focus was suffering. Holding that compromise up for comparison to the highly elaborate procedures of an immense bureaucracy like the ACM is really unfair. Carl
- David's comments Carl Malamud
- Re: David's comments Einar Stefferud
- Re: David's comments Vinton G. Cerf
- Re: David's comments Christian Huitema