Re: Transition

Einar Stefferud <Stef=poised@nma.com> Sat, 14 November 1992 01:12 UTC

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To: "Vinton G. Cerf" <vcerf@CNRI.Reston.VA.US>
cc: Stephen D Crocker <crocker@tis.com>, poised@CNRI.Reston.VA.US
Subject: Re: Transition
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From: Einar Stefferud <Stef=poised@nma.com>
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:46:17 -0800
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Hi Vint -- Along with your list of Trustees, you say:

          "These are not evil people, Stef."
 
Of course they are not evil people!  Who suggested that they are?

I think my latest response to Carl clearly made my points, but...
 
I simply think it will be very healthy for all concerned for some ISOC
Trustees, who can attend the IETF, to tell us what they think about
all this, in what ever way they think is appropriate.

Perhaps it will help to think of my proposal in terms of trying to
shorten the round-trip-time for the exchange of ideas and information
between all the involved parties.  I always get nervous when I see
situations where two relatively autonomous bodies arrange things so
they have to communicate by lobbing missives over a wall between them.

I believe that an open IETF/ISOC public discussion will help to
further the progress of the proposal on the table.

Now, everyone should be able to read from my position here that I
support the proposal, with the added condition that we should speed up
the collective metabolism rate of the ISOC/IAB/IESG/IETF stack by
simply getting elements of the top, bottom and middle layers together
in the same room to talk to each other in real time.

In other words, lets take down the "arms length" barriers for a brief
period of open discussion.

That is all...        				Best...\Stef

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PS for Carl: After a second review of the proposal, just completed,
this is the only suggestion I have for any change in the text.  
(Aside from trivial nits;-)

To wit: Lets speed up the transition process with discussion among all
the bodies that are involved, by means of open discussion with members
of all the involved bodies in the same room at the same time.

Lets not negotiate all this "at arms length" as is too often in other
organizations.  In short, lets do it in The Internet Way.