Re: Selection Process
"Barry M. Leiner" <leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov> Wed, 25 November 1992 17:29 UTC
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To: Christian Huitema <Christian.Huitema@sophia.inria.fr>
Cc: Carl Malamud <carl@malamud.com>, poised@CNRI.Reston.VA.US
Subject: Re: Selection Process
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 25 Nov 92 09:54:58 EST." <199211250855.AA05606@mitsou.inria.fr>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1992 09:29:41 -0800
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From: "Barry M. Leiner" <leiner@nsipo.nasa.gov>
I want to strongly endorse Christian's comments regarding the selection process. Barry > Return-Path: @CNRI.Reston.VA.US:huitema@mitsou.inria.fr > Return-Path: <@CNRI.Reston.VA.US:huitema@mitsou.inria.fr> > Received: Wed, 25 Nov 92 01:08:44 PST from IETF.nri.reston.VA.US (IETF.CNRI.RESTON.VA.US) by nsipo.arc.nasa.gov (4.1/1.5) > Received: from CNRI.RESTON.VA.US by IETF.CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa00719; > 25 Nov 92 3:54 EST > Received: from mitsou.inria.fr by CNRI.Reston.VA.US id aa02218; > 25 Nov 92 3:53 EST > Received: by mitsou.inria.fr > (5.65c/IDA-1.2.8) id AA05606; Wed, 25 Nov 1992 09:55:00 +0100 > Message-Id: <199211250855.AA05606@mitsou.inria.fr> > To: Carl Malamud <carl@malamud.com> > Cc: poised@CNRI.Reston.VA.US > Subject: Re: Selection Process > In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 24 Nov 92 18:18:18 EST." > <9211242318.AA05383@malamud.com> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 92 09:54:58 -0500 > From: Christian Huitema <Christian.Huitema@sophia.inria.fr> > > Carl, > > Good job -- the draft certainly reflects the "sort of broad consensus" that what > reached at the IETF. I have two nits and two remarks. > > 1) Nit 1 -- Title: > > Should be "SELECTION", not "SECTION". > > 2) Nit 2 -- Transition: > > Mentioning the full dates, including Year=92/93, would be helpful. > > 3) Remark 1 -- jury and judges: > > What is basically proposed is "selection by a jury". The basic characteristics of > such juries is that they are fair, but dont necessarily "know the rules". Presence > of a judge and some lawyers is, in that respect, essential. The current IAB > pre-selections are performed by a team of 3 IAB members, which are suppose to > chase for candidates, negociate, etc. I am almost sure that a jury picked by lot > would not be an efficient "chaser", although I am very confident that it would be > a very efficient "referee" -- asserting whether the process was fair, etc. The > original Craig/Frank proposal included more representatives from the IAB/IESG; I > think that a provision for more liaison members from the concerned bodies (perhaps > 2 IAB + 2 IESG instead of 1 + 1) could be beneficial. > > 4) Remark 2 -- confidentiality: > > The reviewing of candidates include reviewing of personalities and personal data. > It is essential that these personal data remain absolutely confidential. Even more > essential in fact in the case of evaluated but non selected candidates! Even their > names should remain confidential. Selection committee members should, at least, > sign some form of "non disclosure agreement" to that effect. > > Christian Huitema
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