Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned"
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Mon, 18 January 2010 12:14 UTC
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Subject: Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned"
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Hi, I want to clarify that I have gotten the information from Michelle that I asked for, i.e., whether IANA sees a difference between "assign" and "register" and whether the current text on the ports registry web page is accurate. I'm hence closing the thread. Please start a new discussion *on the WG list* on other topics that have since been brought up, such as whether the registry should specify legal transports for service names. Thanks, Lars On 2010-1-11, at 9:17, Eggert Lars (Nokia-NRC/Espoo) wrote: > Hi, > > has there been any action around this wrt updating http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers? The page still says: > > The range for assigned ports managed by the IANA is 0-1023. > and > The Registered Ports are in the range 1024-49151. > > After our discussion, I understand that registered and assigned mean the same thing, right? So the former should probably be change to "system" or "well known" ports. There should probably also be a sentence in the beginning of the page that clarifies that IANA manages to ports from 0-49151. > > Lars > > PS: CC'ing Fernando, since this is relevant for his port-randomization draft. > > > > On 2009-12-11, at 0:54, Michelle Cotton wrote: > >> In the ports registry the ranges are described as follows: >> >> System (Well-Known) Port Numbers 0-1023 >> User (Registered) Port Numbers 1024-49152 >> >> Maybe that was meant to say “system” ports or as Joe said, maybe the range should be corrected. >> >> Michelle >> >> On 12/4/09 1:58 PM, "Joe Touch" <touch@ISI.EDU> wrote: >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> Lars Eggert wrote: >>> From http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers: >>> >>>> WELL KNOWN PORT NUMBERS >>>> >>>> The Well Known Ports are assigned by the IANA and on most systems can >>>> only be used by system (or root) processes or by programs executed by >>>> privileged users. >>>> >>>> Ports are used in the TCP [RFC793] to name the ends of logical >>>> connections which carry long term conversations. For the purpose of >>>> providing services to unknown callers, a service contact port is >>>> defined. This list specifies the port used by the server process as >>>> its contact port. The contact port is sometimes called the >>>> "well-known port". >>>> >>>> To the extent possible, these same port assignments are used with the >>>> UDP [RFC768]. >>>> >>>> The range for assigned ports managed by the IANA is 0-1023. >>> >>> What does "assigned" mean here? The ports from 1023-49152 are also "assigned", no? >> >> IMO that's a typo. >> >> Assigned range is 0-49151 >> >> Joe >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) >> >> iEYEARECAAYFAksZhiEACgkQE5f5cImnZrthbACcCi9lZjLTdDk7kGuCy0J9CKQA >> vM8AoL5MgfxM6/VnTCRIWVY5fJAsyE0O >> =DPw4 >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> _______________________________________________ >> Port-srv-reg mailing list >> Port-srv-reg@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/port-srv-reg >> > > <smime.p7s><ATT00001..txt>
- [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Michelle Cotton
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Michelle Cotton
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" Lars Eggert