Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussion
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Fri, 03 September 2010 08:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussion
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Hi, On 2010-9-3, at 10:16, Stuart Cheshire wrote: > 1. Name of the Registry > > Right now the document calls it: > > Transport Protocol Port Number and Service Name Registry > > However, Section 5 says: > > Service names are the unique key in the Port and Service Name registry. > > Since Service names really are the primary identifier, and the port number is optional, and we expect to see more and more registrations without port numbers, would it make sense to switch the order of the words, and make it: > > Registry of Service Names and Transport Protocol Port Numbers agree that we should use one name for the registry throughout. Am OK with your proposal; the main reason I put port numbers first in the title was that historically, that was what the registry was known as, and I didn't want to confuse people. > 2. Service Name Rules > > I liked Joe's earlier suggestion to disallow all-numeric service names, to avoid service names that look like a numeric port number. However, even with that rule, we still allow service names like this: "6000-6063" (looks like the X Window System port range). Do we care? We could prevent that by requiring that all service names contain at least one alphabetic character. I like that proposal. > 3. Inconsistent terminology. > > We use the term "Registered Ports" in some places to mean "ports in the range 1024-49151", and in other places to mean any "port recorded by IANA in the Registry". > > For example, the first meaning: > > <t>the Well Known Ports, also known as the System Ports, from 0-1023 > (assigned by IANA)</t> > > <t>the Registered Ports, also known as the User Ports, from > 1024-49151 (assigned by IANA)</t> > > <t>the Dynamic Ports, also known as the Private Ports, from > 49152-65535 (never assigned)</t> > > and now the second: > > <t>It is important to note that ownership of registered port numbers and > service names remains with IANA. For protocols developed by IETF working > > Thousands of applications and application-level > protocols have registered ports and service names for their use, and > there is every reason to believe that this trend will continue into the > future. > > Would it be better to strictly use the terms "System Ports" and "User Ports" to denote the ranges, and keep the term "registered port" to just mean generically, "recorded by IANA in the Registry"? We can also use the term "assigned" instead of "registered" in the second case. > 4. Aliases > > The document says: > > <t>IANA is also instructed to indicate which service name aliases in the > existing registry are the primary aliases (see <xref target="srvname"/>).</t> > > Why should we burden IANA with this decision making? I bet there aren't that many. Let's just work it out ourselves, and list them in the document. I'll grep the IANA ports page and send a followup email with the list of aliased names. OK. Lars
- [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Michelle Cotton
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Michelle Cotton
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Mark Mcfadden
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussion Stuart Cheshire
- [port-srv-reg] Aliased service names Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Aliased service names Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Aliased service names Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Michelle Cotton
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Aliased service names Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] we need to make progress Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Aliased service names Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Stuart Cheshire
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] Four final points for discussi… Michelle Cotton