Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered"), and related issues
Joe Touch <touch@ISI.EDU> Mon, 11 January 2010 15:07 UTC
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Subject: Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered"), and related issues
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Lars Eggert wrote: > Hi, > > On 2010-1-11, at 14:27, ah@tr-sys.de wrote: >> (1) >> Paraphrased from collected wisdom: >> >> "allocate" or "assign" : >> IANA choses the code point, hands it out and >> publishes it; if the requester proposes a value, >> it is not binding for IANA and can be changed >> without further notice/interaction. >> >> "register" : >> The requester usually proposes an (already established) code >> point, and if feasible, IANA accepts and publishes the value; >> otherwise, IANA must contact the requester for another >> proposal and iterate the procedure until acceptable. > > I'd like to hear if IANA is of the same opinion. My impression was that assign = register. There's a third variant, and it isn't covered above: requester usually proposes a code point, and IANA can either approve it or propose a different one. IANA usually confirms the requester's acceptance of the code point offered. >> (3) >> Furthermore, to make sensible use of Service Names w/o assigned >> port number, the Transport Protocol(s) field should not be made >> optional (as in the predraft I got), but mandatory; otherwise >> the clarified rules for SRV owner naming would lack a fundament. > > Why? A service name is a name for a service, and not for a service/transport combination. IMO, this basically treats SRV names as old port numbers were treated - i.e., ask for a name, get ALL transports. That's how port number assignments were done until recently, where now only the needed transport is assigned. So IMO a service means something only relative to a transport. However, it'd be useful to require the transport be specified only if the same name would mean different things for different transports. Do we ever see that happening? Joe -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (MingW32) iEYEARECAAYFAktLPlsACgkQE5f5cImnZrvfwQCeO6PDaK0DioHf9skYZ712o9ko zlsAoPowEdWWlSh2m8hBNLEvX+eF4NSu =93WG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Michelle Cotton