Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered"), and related issues
Lars Eggert <lars.eggert@nokia.com> Mon, 11 January 2010 12:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered"), and related issues
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Hi, On 2010-1-11, at 14:27, ah@tr-sys.de wrote: > (1) > Paraphrased from collected wisdom: > > "allocate" or "assign" : > IANA choses the code point, hands it out and > publishes it; if the requester proposes a value, > it is not binding for IANA and can be changed > without further notice/interaction. > > "register" : > The requester usually proposes an (already established) code > point, and if feasible, IANA accepts and publishes the value; > otherwise, IANA must contact the requester for another > proposal and iterate the procedure until acceptable. I'd like to hear if IANA is of the same opinion. My impression was that assign = register. > If I understand correctly, under the new regime, Service Names will > be "registered" and *all* Port Numbers (if any) will be "assigned". > Is that correct? > (The draft says the requester may "suggest" a value "for allocation".) The draft was written under the assumption that assign = register. > (2) > It also should be pointed out that in the most recent predraft > I've seen (December 2, 2009 version), there still is no possibility > in the proposed registration template to distinguish between > a request for a Well Known port number without a proposed value and > a request for a Registered Port without a proposed port number -- > both have to supply "Port Number: ANY". And that's on purpose: for both regions of the port number space, requesters may (but need not) suggest a number > (3) > Furthermore, to make sensible use of Service Names w/o assigned > port number, the Transport Protocol(s) field should not be made > optional (as in the predraft I got), but mandatory; otherwise > the clarified rules for SRV owner naming would lack a fundament. Why? A service name is a name for a service, and not for a service/transport combination. Lars > (The need for having registered {Service Name, Protocol} pairs was > the main reason for the original Service Prefix registry proposal.) > Thus, I strongly suggest to strike the phrase, > "If assignment of a port number is desired," > in the description of the Transport Protocol(s) field and > strike "(if port number requested)" in the overview in 8.1, > precding the bullets for the template fields. > > > Kind regards, > Alfred. > > -- > > +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+ > | TR-Sys Alfred Hoenes | Alfred Hoenes Dipl.-Math., Dipl.-Phys. | > | Gerlinger Strasse 12 | Phone: (+49)7156/9635-0, Fax: -18 | > | D-71254 Ditzingen | E-Mail: ah@TR-Sys.de | > +------------------------+--------------------------------------------+ >
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [port-srv-reg] "assigned" ( vs. "registered")… Michelle Cotton