[port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc
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Subject: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc
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Update to the updates: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - assigned vs registered 5226 is IANA Considerations, explains what these terms mean. Mark: Will give us text & check for consistency throughout the doc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - need to specify transports for service names Lars: This focuses on how to ask for a service name. Ask for just a service name. The entry will be: banana TCP banana UDP Olafur's doc will indicate how to use this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - who gets to add transports to a service that exists? Draft text: IANA will reserve updates that add transports to existing services with priority to the owner of the existing registrations, with exceptions coordinated with the IESG. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - WKS needs to be addressed Olafur: Remove WKS text from our docs. Point to Olafur's doc, which closes other registries as a result. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - the online tables may need to support "sort on multiple fields" IANA action item TBD. Does not affect doc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Alfred's observation that, "looking for "transport"/"protocol", I found that the draft repeatedly uses "protocol number[s]" or even "address[es]" where it should say "port number[s]" Olafur: Will check for consistency. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - the doc should focus on user interfaces to IANA actions Current intro/abstract are OK. No changes to doc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Gorry's input that: Section 10.3.1: It is good to also cite RFC 5595 >>> (you currently cite the draft) for service code information, since this >>> updated RFC 4340 in many ways. Also Section 10.3.2 since this explains >>> how ports and SC interact and how you can manage without port allocations >>> To be added (AFAICT, it wasn't yet) Gorry: To fix as request. Check also the appendix for DCCP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Gorry's input that: We MUST note in the new draft that no registry >>> allocations can be made for zero or 4294967295, and no registry >>> allocations can be made for 1056964608-1073741823 (high byte ASCII "?") >>> reserved for private use [19.8 of RFC 4340]. >>> To be added. Gorry: To fix as requested. Check also the appendix for DCCP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Gorry's input that: see 10.3.2: IANA MUST NOT allocate a single >>> Service Code value to more than one DCCP server port. // revise to MUST >>> NOT allocate more than one port to a single service code value; multiple >>> SC per port is allowed, subject to expert review. >>> To be added. Gorry: To fix as requested. Check also the appendix for DCCP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Gorry's input that: updates RFC 5595, since the latter states where >>> ports and service codes are registered >>> To be added. Gorry: To fix as requested. Check also the appendix for DCCP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - Gorry's input that we fix the acknowledgements (ref to Tom - who?) >>>>> GORRY - can you clarify? Gorry: To fix as requested. Check also the appendix for DCCP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> [ P.S. The note I sent simply said the "ack" to Tom Phelan isn't >> really the full story. Tom pointed to the text in section 6 of >> draft http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dccp-serv-codes-04. >> This ID was edited by me, with some inputs from Eddie Kohler and >> some from Tom. I removed this text from the DCCP RFC, when it was >> sent to help make this draft. That's all.] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - point about multiple names that use the same port number Two cases: www/http = synonyms stun/turn = in-band negotiation Lars: Will update text as needed. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>> My suggestion would be to add a section to that draft grandfathering >>>>> ports 465, 993, 2000 and a few more (adding as much negative verbiage as >>>>> seems wise; I don't think the exact amount makes and difference at all). >>>>> IIRC port 2000 can be grandfathered a half-dozen times. This document does not document protocols no longer used. No changes to the doc for this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > There are two separate issues: > > - previous assignments that don't follow the proposed recommendations > - as noted, there's no goal to fix that Already note we're leaving existing stuff alone. No changes to the doc for this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > - 'squatting', or use of ports without registering through IANA > - IMO, these should not be ignored, but clearly cannot be > treated as equivalent to 'self assigned' > > i.e., IMO, IANA should list these as "unauthorized use", > as a service to the community to help those using those > ports as assigned. Out of scope for this doc. No changes to the doc for this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - email to registrants whose entries will be modified Stuart: Will send/review text. No changes to the doc for this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - table boilerplate Michelle: Will send draft text. No changes to the doc for this. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - names for table entries to coordinate with Olafur's tables Joe: Will clarify list of table entries and ensure they are described completely in the current doc. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - updates for new transport protocols Lars: Will add text for how new transports are handled. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ - how you get a port number vs ask for a port number Lars: Clarify how you either leave this open in the request or ask for a number. (how you state a preference) - sec 7.3 / need to add IESG approval to IETF approval for system ports Michelle: To update text. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- end.
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" ( vs. "regi… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" ( vs. "regi… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" ( vs. "regi… Olafur Gudmundsson
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" ( vs. "regi… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" (vs. "regis… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" (vs. "regis… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" (vs. "regis… Alfred Hönes
- Re: [port-srv-reg] [tsvwg] "assigned" (vs. "regis… Joe Touch
- [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Joe Touch
- [port-srv-reg] status check Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Mark Mcfadden
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Pearl Liang
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Michelle Cotton
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Lars Eggert
- [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates - por… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [port-srv-reg] final updates - ports doc Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Alexey Melnikov
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… David Harrington
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Gorry Fairhurst
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] ACTION ITEMS - final updates -… Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Joe Touch
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Lars Eggert
- Re: [port-srv-reg] status check Gorry Fairhurst