Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG
James Carlson <carlsonj@workingcode.com> Wed, 28 September 2011 12:29 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG
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Glen Zorn wrote: > On 9/28/2011 2:31 AM, Donald Eastlake wrote: >> There will not be a PPPEXT meeting in Taiwan. >> >> Probably next week, I'll review this thread and post my conclusions. > > Actually, there is one useful thing that this WG could do before its > demise: update or obsolete RFC 3818 so that necessary work can be done > when it (the WG) is gone. Please clarify: an update in what way? The existing document requires "IETF Consensus" for a certain set of protocol numbers in order to ensure that any work that's done has meaningful review. I think this is a good thing, and certainly should not be considered "obsolete." In the absence of an IETF PPPEXT WG, I'd expect that any "necessary work" in these areas would be done in the context of (and likely in service to) some other working group, with others outside that group solicited for comment as needed. "PPPEXT" then becomes as necessary to the process as would be an "ICMPEXT" group. If anything, I think RFC 3818 should be strengthened, not abandoned. -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W <carlsonj@workingcode.com>
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Ignacio Goyret
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake