Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6man-ipv6-mlppp-id-00.txt
James Carlson <carlsonj@workingcode.com> Fri, 13 August 2010 19:36 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pppext] new draft
published: draft-vautrin-6man-ipv6-mlppp-id-00.txt
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> Title : Multi link PPP Support for an ipv6 address class > identifier > Author(s) : O. Vautrin, B. Lourdelet > Filename : draft-vautrin-6man-ipv6-mlppp-id-00.txt In general, I like the idea, but I'd like to suggest a few amendments (or at least points for consideration): - Some IPv6 addresses are probably not as suitable for use as others. In particular, using a link local is unlikely to be a good idea because of the greater risk of duplication. We glossed over this issue with IPv4 in RFC 1990, mostly because link-locals are so 'rare' there, but it seems more important to call out in the context of IPv6. - A "privacy" address, or any other "changes frequently" address, may be a problem operationally. If a PPP system establishes one link, and then later (perhaps on demand) establishes another link that's intended as part of a bundle, that second link will need to use the same endpoint discriminator. If the address has changed, the bundle will fail. Implementations likely need to "sample" a locally-available IPv6 address, and then keep using that address for all future links until the bundle itself is terminated -- regardless of the current status of that address on the system. That is, I believe the document should explicitly _encourage_ the use of IPv6 addresses in this one context past the point where the system is otherwise still "allowed" to use the address. If that can't be done (e.g., if the IPv6 folks believe that this usage is somehow a problem), then addresses that are expected to change need to be avoided. (Personally, I don't see how it could be a problem, unless you're prepared to tear down the whole bundle when the address becomes invalid, but I guess I'm unsure here.) - As a nit, I don't think it's wise to duplicate the existing RFC 1990 values for Class in this document. Instead, just the new value and semantics should be included. - I think this ought to be a standards-track document that updates RFC 1990, and (with your agreement, of course) should be a wg document. (See RFC 3818; the Class numbers are "IETF Consensus.") - Wow. The new boilerplate makes a visual mess of otherwise nice, simple proposals like this. :-< -- James Carlson 42.703N 71.076W <carlsonj@workingcode.com>
- [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6man-… James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6… James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6… Eswaran Srinivasan
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6… James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6… Olivier Vautrin
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6… Olivier Vautrin
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-6… James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-p… Olivier Vautrin
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-p… James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] new draft published: draft-vautrin-p… Vernon Schryver