Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG
Mark Townsley <mark@townsley.net> Sun, 11 September 2011 16:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG
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On Sep 11, 2011, at 9:13 AM, Glen Zorn wrote: > On 9/10/2011 4:33 PM, Mark Townsley wrote: > >> >> On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:44 AM, Bernard Aboba wrote: >> >>>> If the purpose of such a meeting is to talk about rechartering, I see >>>> no evidence that such time would be well spent. >>> >>> [BA] +1 >>> >>> After such a long hiatus, I do not think it is wise to attempt to >>> re-activate this WG. >>> >>> However, I might consider attending a "PPP Reunion Night" where we >>> play music from the 90s, and reminisce about dialup modems. >> >> Now *that* sounds like a good use of time of which I would happily >> attend :-) >> >> In addition to the 90s music, I think this would have to be our theme >> song... >> >> http://www.freesound.org/people/Jlew/sounds/16475/ > > Well, this is all good fun, in a US/Euro-centric kind of way, but it > would be good to remember that in a very large part of the world our > "theme song" is a still a vital part of the Internet & is likely to > remain so for a considerable period of time. This email will make the > first hop of its journey over (the much maligned) PPPoE, for example; > not everybody lives in advanced countries such as S. Korea (the > connectivity of which should make both the French and Americans hang > their heads in shame). In short, PPP is far from obsolete. > > ... Obsolete? No. Stable, mature, and in no need of tinkering with? Yes. I find listening to the modem training nostalgic (teenage years running BBS systems, not to mention building access servers at IBM and Cisco). I was just guessing others do here as well. This list is not representative of the entire world of Internet users. Last time I ran into this same sound in real life was just this summer, using an ATM machine at a gas station in Wisconsin. So, yes, of course all this stuff is still in use, and not just outside the US/Euro-zone. Didn't mean to suggest otherwise. So, let's chill, and if we do have a PPP get-together and we can both be there, I'll happily buy you the first round ;-) - Mark
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Thomas Narten
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Ignacio Goyret
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Jacni Qin
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Mark Townsley
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG James Carlson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Vernon Schryver
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Glen Zorn
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG William Allen Simpson
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake
- Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG Donald Eastlake