Re: [Pppext] Future of the PPP WG

William Allen Simpson <> Sun, 02 October 2011 11:11 UTC

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On 10/2/11 2:44 AM, Glen Zorn wrote:
> On 9/29/2011 6:18 PM, William Allen Simpson wrote:
>> On 9/28/11 12:20 AM, Glen Zorn wrote:
>>> Actually, there is one useful thing that this WG could do before its
>>> demise: update or obsolete RFC 3818 so that necessary work can be done
>>> when it (the WG) is gone.
>> Glen, what needs to be changed?  I didn't pay any particular attention
>> to it at the time,
> You're not alone, Bill: not much attention was called to it (at least in
> pppext).  It was an individual submission (kind of ironic, considering
> that the evil it purports to fix is the lack of WG review).  IIRC, I was
> unaware of its existence until the announcement of its publication.
It _was_ an odd thing for an individual submission, but I wasn't too
worried about it, as it was proposed in a draft sent to the list.

I went back and looked at my list archives, and found that I'd not even
ever read half the messages about it.  It came out of a series of posts on
the Subject: Re: Reigning in "bad" extensions to PPP.

At the time, I did read the first few messages with each new Subject line:
    proposed draft IANA Considerations
    I-D ACTION:draft-schryver-pppext-iana-00.txt
    IANA PPP considerations
    IANA Considerations for PPP to Proposed Standard

Again, what needs to be changed?

>> but this really looks like a one-off RFC to update
>> some kind of IANA considerations.  It doesn't appear to be idiotic.
> Not idiotic at all; the author is not an idiot.  Diabolical, maybe, but
> not idiotic.
I've an informal personal rule going back to the early '90s against
responding to Schryver's usual provocative rants, and had kill filed him
for some years.  I'd say more of a troll than diabolical.