Re: [ppsp] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> Tue, 15 December 2015 19:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [ppsp] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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Hi,

Looking at the updated document, I have some minor comments on the 
changes. Otherwise, I think at least my substantive comments have all 
been addressed.

- I notice multiple occurrences of "edit-itis" in the changed text. 
(That is, grammar errors introduced by incomplete edits.). I suggest one 
more proofreading pass after you have made all your planned edits. I 
mention a few instances below, but I think there are more.

- Definitions of seeder and leech: The 2119 keywords probably do not 
belong in the term definition. I _think_ (but did not verify) that this 
is specified elsewhere in the document. It's okay to mention the 
requirement in the term definition, just not "normatively"

- 1.2.2, 1st paragraph last sentence:
The new sentence about peer ID formats is internally redundant. I 
suspect someone started to edit it but didn't finish.

- 6.2:

s/declaim/claim

I cannot parse the sentence starting with "For Trackers...". Does this 
mean something like:
"Trackers do not see the content exchanged among peers, so they cannot 
detect peer pollution of content."

Thanks!

Ben.

On 15 Dec 2015, at 5:49, Huangyihong (Rachel) wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> We have submitted a new version. Would you please take a look to see 
> if the comments are solved or not?
> Thanks.
>
> BR,
> Rachel
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Ben Campbell [mailto:ben@nostrum.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2015 7:06 AM
>> To: Huangyihong (Rachel)
>> Cc: ppsp-chairs@ietf.org; ppsp@ietf.org; The IESG;
>> draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol@ietf.org; Zongning
>> Subject: Re: Ben Campbell's Discuss on
>> draft-ietf-ppsp-base-tracker-protocol-10: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
>>
>> Hi Rachel,
>>
>> I just realized I hadn't closed the loop on this one. Your email 
>> addressed all my
>> remaining comments.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Ben.
>>
>>
>> On 19 Nov 2015, at 1:53, Huangyihong (Rachel) wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Ben,
>>>
>>> Please see further late replies inline^^. Thank you for your 
>>> comments.
>>>
>>> BR,
>>> Rachel