Re: [ppsp] Progress on core tracker protocol?
zhangyunfei <zhangyunfei@chinamobile.com> Thu, 28 June 2012 01:46 UTC
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Subject: Re: [ppsp] Progress on core tracker protocol?
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Thank Rui for the information. P.S.: For the WG, Arno has published a new version of the peer protocol. Please review it and publish your comments. Thanks. BR Yunfei zhangyunfei From: Rui Cruz Date: 2012-06-28 00:41 To: Johan Pouwelse CC: Rui Cruz; ppsp Subject: Re: [ppsp] Progress on core tracker protocol? The PPSP-TP base Tracker Protocol draft will be published before the end of June. It does essentially what we had discussed during IETF 83. The PPSP-TP Extended Tracker Protocol will bring all those more sophisticated features, and will be published afterwards (during July) Cumprimentos/Regards, Rui Cruz Sent from my iPad2 On 27/06/2012, at 16:52, Johan Pouwelse <peer2peer@gmail.com> wrote: There was agreement for the need to create a core tracker protocol. Any progress to report, since last month? What do you think of my proposal below for the focus of this really-limited-to-the-core protocol? This document specifies the Peer-to-Peer Streaming Protocol--Core Tracker Protocol (PPSP-CTP), an application-layer control protocol for facilitating Peer-2-Peer streaming. This core protocol is limited to a peer discovery request message and reply message. The PPSP-CTP protocol is limited to the GET-PEERS message and subsequent reply with a peer list. This core protocol is the only requirement for a simple streaming service, along with the PPSP peer protocol. We refer to an upcoming Extended Tracker Protocol for more sophisticated features. For instance, the exchange of meta information, content information, statistics reporting, etc. -johan. On Tuesday, June 5, 2012, Rui Cruz wrote: Hi, The Tracker Protocol is being split to a base specification draft and to extensions. We hope to have the base specification submitted in a couple of weeks. Regards, Rui Cruz rui.cruz@ieee.org IST/INESC-ID/INOV - Lisbon, Portugal __________________________________________ ppsp mailing list ppsp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp On 04/06/2012, at 10:39, stefano previdi wrote: All, here are some notes i preparation of the next PPSP meeting we're going to have in Vancouver (http://www.ietf.org/meeting/84/index.html) 1. Peer Protocol - chunk addressing mechanism We currently have two proposals that I'd try to name as: . Bin Notation . Ranges Both proposals have been discussed in the mailing list and it looks to me we're NOT achieving agreement/consensus on any of them also due to lack of participation of the WG into the discussion (other than the authors of each proposal). Therefore, as of today, we can reasonably explore the following options: Option-1: We propose both solutions in the peer protocol specification and we define them both MANDATORY so to cope with interoperability issues. Option-2: we select one option through a WG vote (this is my least preferred option). Since I'd really prefer to avoid Option-2, I can only consider the "dual" specification. WG opinion on this is requested. Again, it would be very beneficial to the WG if current implementors of streaming protocols would/could speak-up and give their opinion (see point 4 below). 2. Peer Protocol - Security Section The IESG will not accept any protocol specification without a consistent security section (IOW: way more than what we currently have) although there are some arguments on whether we need the security mechanisms in the base spec. Arno and Zong Ning proposed some text and we need to agree/amend it asap so to update the draft. I'd like to close this one and have a new version of the draft for next meeting. 3. Tracker Protocol After IETF83 we agreed to split into two distinct drafts: base specification and optional extensions. Authors, it would be good to have a first submission before next meeting. 4. Survey draft. We need to refresh/re-submit and the chairs proposed the authors/editors to include a section on deployment experiences and more precisely on chunk addressing and security mechanisms. Hopefully this will also feed ongoing discussions. 5. Meeting during IETF84. We have requested a slot for Vancouver meeting. Anyone interested, please request an agenda slot asap to Yunfei or myself. Let us know if anything is missing. Thanks. Stefano & Yunfei _______________________________________________ ppsp mailing list ppsp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp _______________________________________________ ppsp mailing list ppsp@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/ppsp
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