Re: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-7564bis-09.txt

Sam Whited <sam@samwhited.com> Thu, 14 September 2017 14:06 UTC

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Subject: Re: [precis] I-D Action: draft-ietf-precis-7564bis-09.txt
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On Wed, Sep 13, 2017, at 22:38, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> The Spotify folks faced numerous issues, including the fact that they
> implemented against an unfinished spec. I'd say that if they now used
> the PRECIS specs (especially the new ones about to be published) as
> their guideline, things would have gone much better.

I agree as far as the username profiles go (which is actually what they
were doing), the major issues with those have been fixed as far as I can
tell from my implementation / limited usage. Let's do the same for the
nickname profile before publishing another since there is a history of
this being a problem.
—Sam