Re: [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-precis-nickname-18: (with COMMENT)
"Ben Campbell" <ben@nostrum.com> Tue, 01 September 2015 20:22 UTC
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Subject: Re: [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-precis-nickname-18: (with COMMENT)
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On 1 Sep 2015, at 14:44, Peter Saint-Andre - &yet wrote: [...] >>> >>> -- Abstract: >>> The abstract could be beefed up against? Maybe say what a nickname >>> is in >>> this context? >>> [Edit: "Against"? I meant "a bit".] >> >> Good idea. > > I suggest: > > This document describes methods for handling Unicode strings > representing memorable, human-friendly names (variously called > "nicknames", "display names", or "petnames") for people, devices, > accounts, websites, and other entities. > That WFM. [...] >> >>> -- 1.1, 2nd paragraph: >>> People really use "petname" for this? Who knew? >> >> Yes. Perhaps a pointer to >> http://www.skyhunter.com/marcs/petnames/IntroPetNames.html would be >> helpful? > > I think Section 1.1 could use a bit of clarification through regarding > terminology, something like the following... > > ### > > A number of technologies and applications provide the ability for a > person to choose a memorable, human-friendly name in a communications > context, or to set such a name for another entity entity such as a > device, account, contact, or website. Such names are variously > called "nicknames" (e.g., in chatroom applications), "display names" > (e.g., in Internet mail), or "petnames" (see [1]); for consistency, > these are all called "nicknames" in this document. > > Nicknames are commonly supported in technologies for textual > chatrooms, e.g., Internet Relay Chat [RFC2811] and multi-party chat > technologies based on the Extensible Messaging and Presence Protocol > (XMPP) [RFC6120] [XEP-0045], the Message Session Relay Protocol > (MSRP) [RFC4975] [I-D.ietf-simple-chat], and Centralized Conferencing > (XCON) [RFC5239] [I-D.boulton-xcon-session-chat]. Recent chatroom > technologies also allow internationalized nicknames because they > support characters from outside the ASCII range [RFC20], typically by > means of the Unicode character set [Unicode]. Although such > nicknames tend to be used primarily for display purposes, they are > sometimes used for programmatic purposes as well (e.g., kicking users > or avoiding nickname conflicts). > > A similar usage enables a person to set their own preferred display > name or to set a preferred display name for another user (e.g., the > "display-name" construct in the Internet message format [RFC5322] and > [XEP-0172] in XMPP). > > Memorable, human-friendly names are also used in contexts other than > personal messaging, such as names for devices (e.g., in a network > visualization application), websites (e.g., for bookmarks in a web > browser), accounts (e.g., in a web interface for a list of payees in > a bank account), people (e.g., in a contact list application), and > the like. > > The rules specified in this document can be applied in all of the > foregoing contexts. > > To increase the likelihood that memorable, human-friendly names will > work in ways that make sense for typical users throughout the world, > this document defines rules for preparing, enforcing, and comparing > internationalized nicknames. That also WFM. (And for the record, I really didn't expect my "petname" observation to be actionable. But I like the proposed text.) > > ... > > [1] http://www.skyhunter.com/marcs/petnames/IntroPetNames.html > > ### > > Peter > > -- > Peter Saint-Andre > https://andyet.com/
- [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-precis-… Ben Campbell
- [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-precis-… Ben Campbell
- Re: [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-pre… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-pre… Peter Saint-Andre - &yet
- Re: [precis] Ben Campbell's Yes on draft-ietf-pre… Ben Campbell