Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions
Brian E Carpenter <brc@zurich.ibm.com> Thu, 06 April 2006 08:01 UTC
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Allison Mankin wrote:
...
>>>>>Henrik and I have done a few iterations of this with
>>>>>Ray looking on, and as of yesterday Henrik is waiting for me
>>>>>to look at the last one before we send it to the PROTO team.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Excellent. I just don't want this to slip down the queue for
>>>>lack of requirements.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>I'll ask Ray to speak to this - Henrik and I put this on a fast track
>>>because Ray said this could be a high priority. Are we still on
>>>track, Ray?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Yes, we are in the process of prioritizing NSS development work and this
>>is a HiPri.
>>BTW the doc seems to define new states but not actions. Is that to be
>>left to NSS to determine?
>>Ray
>
>
> The way tracker updates have been done in the past is that the
> the state names and the actions and behavior have been determined
> by us. The document does cover the actions where it talks about
> about access groups, restrictions on some actions
> and so on. I think we probably have enough detail - we've tended
> not to give any input on new user interface for new actions, just
> feedback once it came in.
>
> But I hope that NSS will support a collaborative work style
> for this update to the tracker as in previous large updates, with
> a lot of interaction and feedback from a small group of early
> users, including the PROTO team.
Sure, for a highly interactive tool like this, feedback
on action buttons can only come when there's a prototype.
But don't the possible actions need to be defined at
an abstract level?
Brian
> I think we should give the document to the rest of the team for
> their review. Henrik and I have been writing it.
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>>We originally had a section in it on IAB and IRTF
>>>>>drafts - I've suggested it be a separate document which
>>>>>we should launch to those folks at the same time (Henrik?)
>>>>>because the IAB and IRTF/IRSG are likely to have to hash
>>>>>their document state diagrams a bit and it would be nice
>>>>>not to have to wait for them for all the work.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well, OK, but it would be good to get it all done as one effort.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>My comment said launch at the same time.
>>>
>>>Henrik, can we start up the second IAB/IRTF draft? The final
>>>section of markup I gave on our first draft is fine for that
>>>short draft, and I can do a cut in there to refine it again, especially
>>>needing to fix up the IRTF part, based on Aaron's process doc.
>>>I just think we need to run that doc in parallel.
>>>
>>>Allison
>>>
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- [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Allison Mankin
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Allison Mankin
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Allison Mankin
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [proto-team] I-D Tracker Extensions Ray Pelletier