Re: [provreg] New Version Notification for draft-brown-epp-fees-01.txt

I'd also be in favour of adding an optional(?) special or type attribute 
or element to the fee extensions, that reflects the price class of 
domains differing from the standard pricing e.g.

*<special>Tier1</special>* or <fee:cd ... *type="Tier1"*>

The extension right now reflects the billing between the registry and a 
registrar. But when dealing with customers or resellers, this would 
limit the flexibility for reseller and retail pricing models. Domains 
are typically sold through a chain:

     REGISTRY -> REGISTRAR (-> RESELLER)* -> CUSTOMER

For registries offering premium domains, it makes sense to limit the 
number of different premium price classes. That way registrars and 
resellers can define their own pricing models for those classes. 
Otherwise registrars and resellers would be limited to fix increments or 
percentage based markups.

A fee check response could look like this:

S:  <fee:cd xmlns:fee="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:fee-0.5" *type="AAA+"*>
S:    <fee:name>somepremium.tld</fee:name>
S:    <fee:currency>USD</fee:currency>
S:    <fee:command>create</fee:command>
S:    <fee:period unit="y">1</fee:period>
S:    <fee:fee>1234.00</fee:fee>
S:  </fee:cd>

If the registry uses an attribute that reflects the price class, then it 
should also be required on create, renew, transfer and restore. E.g.

C:  <fee:create xmlns:fee="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:fee-0.4" *type="AAA+"*>
C:    <fee:currency>USD</fee:currency>
C:    <fee:fee>12.00</fee:fee>
C:  </fee:create>

This would also cover the following case: A registry could come up with 
a business model, where the registration fee for premium domains matches 
the standard fee for that TLD, but those premium domains have a higher 
renewal price. Requiring the attribute (that indicates a premium domain) 
for those domains would prevent an accidental premium registration.

Best regards,
- jens

Am 01.05.2014 21:41, schrieb Rubens Kuhl:
>
> Recent events showed there is a need for a reliable way of knowing it.
> http://domainincite.com/16534-guy-hit-with-1600-bill-a-month-after-registering-premium-name-for-12-99
> http://domainincite.com/16555-101domain-shifts-blame-to-google-as-premium-buyers-offered-50-discount
>
>
>
> Rubens
>
> On May 1, 2014, at 4:21 PM, Pat Moroney <pmoroney@name.com 
> <mailto:pmoroney@name.com>> wrote:
>
>> Seth, you hit the nail on the head. We currently have to figure out 
>> if the domain is a premium domain name via numerous methods, some of 
>> which can take time or are unreliable. It would be safer to get that 
>> information in a standard way which is guaranteed to be up to date.
>>
>> A type attribute could work for that nicely.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:38 PM, Seth Goldman <sethamin@google.com 
>> <mailto:sethamin@google.com>> wrote:
>>
>>     I have heard from at least one registrar that they'd like premium
>>     domain names delineated from non-premium. I'd suggest adding an
>>     optional "type" attribute that can be extended for custom types.
>>
>>
>>     On May 1, 2014 2:35 PM, "Luis Muñoz" <lem@isc.org
>>     <mailto:lem@isc.org>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     >
>>     > On May 1, 2014, at 11:03 AM, Pat Moroney <pmoroney@name.com
>>     <mailto:pmoroney@name.com>> wrote:
>>     >
>>     > > Let me know if any of this makes sense or if there is a
>>     better venue or way for me to make these suggestions since I am
>>     new to this list.
>>     >
>>     > Why does it matter if the price is "special" (or "exceptional"
>>     as opposed to "regular")? The reason I ask is that I suspect you
>>     intent to convey some other meaning into the transaction.
>>     >
>>     > Perhaps you're thinking about a promotional price that can be
>>     valid only during a certain period?
>>     >
>>     > Best regards
>>     >
>>     > -lem
>>     >
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