[proxies] Recap for -00 draft

Katrin Hoeper <katrin.hoeper@nist.gov> Fri, 02 May 2008 14:07 UTC

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it's good to see that we already had some good discussions on this list.
I would like to briefly recap and outline next steps for a first draft.

So far we seem to have collected:

1) a worldwide WLAN that enables roaming registered users to access 
information free of charge
(thanks Stefan for your detailed description)

1) proxies can listen to traffic
2) insert fake accounting  packets

-easy to sniff traffic for proxies
-most attributes readable due to AAA hop-by-hop security

-depends on the content of the exchanged data
When data contains valuable user information (such as the user's 
age), this information can be correlated with the user identity and 
then be exploited.
-depends on national laws and regulations
-depends on whether offered services are free or paid

-some providers seem to be more worried about malicious insiders and 
outsider sniffers rather than proxies

There have been some proposals but I'd like to keep this discussion 
for later on, after we decided if and how we should continue. (see my 

I will now go ahead and put together a -00 draft about items I-IV 
using our 
slides, and the discussion on this list as input.

Please send other information that you would like to be included in 
the 00 draft to the list. Also let me know if you disagree with 
previous discussions (items I-IV, not solutions!). Off course, 
everybody is more than welcome to volunteer as a co-author. Just let me know.

We definitely need more use cases. I will try to cover all aspects 
listed under IV. Severity in the use cases. It would be very helpful 
if people could send me more "real implementation" examples of 
networks using proxies, especially the architecture of such networks 
and the particular functions of proxies in them (e.g. what data do 
they need to know).


Katrin Hoeper
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