From: Gregory Mirsky <gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com>
To: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>, "pwe3	(pwe3@ietf.org)" <pwe3@ietf.org>
Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2012 14:21:54 -0400
Thread-Topic: VCCV2
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Yaakov,
let me re-phrase.
I'm for the long draft that documents all of VCCVs.

    Regards,
        Greg

________________________________
From: Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:19 AM
To: Gregory Mirsky; pwe3 (pwe3@ietf.org)
Subject: RE: VCCV2

Greg

Thanks for the opinion on content.
But for the meantime I was asking a question about document format.

Y(J)S

From: Gregory Mirsky [mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 21:17
To: Yaakov Stein; pwe3 (pwe3@ietf.org)
Subject: RE: VCCV2

Dear Yaakov, Tom, et al.,
I'd support RFC 5085bis rather than formal obsolecence of PW VCCV Control C=
hannel Type 2 and introduction of new Type 4.

    Regards,
        Greg
________________________________
From: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Yaa=
kov Stein
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:24 AM
To: pwe3 (pwe3@ietf.org)
Subject: [PWE3] VCCV2
Hi all

I would like to bring to the list the questions Tom and I raised yesterday.


1)      Should we do a short (and quick turnaround) draft just on the CC ty=
pes (obsoleting type 2 and introducing type 4) ?

2)      If so, should we merge VCCV2 with VCCV-2 ?

The alternative is a long draft that documents all of VCCV.

Y(J)S



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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D896092018-01082012><FONT face=3DA=
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Yaakov,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D896092018-01082012><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>let me re-phrase.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D896092018-01082012><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>I'm for the long draft that documents all of=20
VCCVs.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D896092018-01082012><FONT face=3DA=
rial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D896092018-01082012>&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp; <FONT=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN=20
class=3D896092018-01082012>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <FONT=
=20
face=3DArial color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Greg</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<HR tabIndex=3D-1>
<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> Yaakov Stein [mailto:yaakov_s@rad=
.com]=20
<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01, 2012 11:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> Gregory=
=20
Mirsky; pwe3 (pwe3@ietf.org)<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: VCCV2<BR></FONT><BR></D=
IV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Greg<o:p></o:p></SPAN><=
/P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN=
></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Thanks for the opinion =
on=20
content.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">But for the meantime I =
was=20
asking a question about document format.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN=
></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d">Y(J)S<o:p></o:p></SPAN>=
</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN=
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN><=
/B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'"> Gregory Mirs=
ky=20
[mailto:gregory.mirsky@ericsson.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01,=
 2012=20
21:17<BR><B>To:</B> Yaakov Stein; pwe3 (pwe3@ietf.org)<BR><B>Subject:</B> R=
E:=20
VCCV2<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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ear=20
Yaakov, Tom, et al.,</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:=
p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">I=
'd=20
support RFC 5085bis rather than formal obsolecence of PW VCCV Control Chann=
el=20
Type 2 and introduction of new Type 4. </SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:=
p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
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</SPAN><SPAN=20
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sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">G=
reg</SPAN><SPAN=20
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<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN><=
/B><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">=20
pwe3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Ya=
akov=20
Stein<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, August 01, 2012 10:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> pwe=
3=20
(pwe3@ietf.org)<BR><B>Subject:</B> [PWE3] VCCV2</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'"><o:p></o:=
p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt">Hi all<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt">I would like to bring to the=
 list the=20
questions Tom and I raised yesterday.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt">1=
)<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>Should we do a short (and quick turnaround) draft just on the CC typ=
es=20
(obsoleting type 2 and introducing type 4) ?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoListParagraph style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt; TEXT-INDENT: -18pt">2=
)<SPAN=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 7pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman','serif'">&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
</SPAN>If so, should we merge VCCV2 with VCCV-2 ?<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt">The alternative is a long dr=
aft that=20
documents all of VCCV.<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt">Y(J)S<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 6pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
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