Return-Path: X-Original-To: pwe3@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: pwe3@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BA1B21F84F3 for ; Tue, 8 May 2012 04:50:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.9 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=-0.698, BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, MIME_QP_LONG_LINE=1.396] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kaxFJkezrDlr for ; Tue, 8 May 2012 04:50:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lucidvision.com (lucidvision.com [72.71.250.34]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6F3C21F84F8 for ; Tue, 8 May 2012 04:50:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5709E210285D; Tue, 8 May 2012 07:50:07 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at www.lucidvision.com Received: from lucidvision.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (static-72-71-250-34.cncdnh.fios.verizon.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NibDXI5ZJTiQ; Tue, 8 May 2012 07:50:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.1.58] (static-72-71-250-38.cncdnh.fast04.myfairpoint.net [72.71.250.38]) by lucidvision.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0CD72102850; Tue, 8 May 2012 07:50:06 -0400 (EDT) References: In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-C75CDB7E-9A92-40AB-B444-390BD15151EC Message-Id: <0B1336EA-4B70-4F0D-AAA5-5C1EC63335F3@lucidvision.com> X-Mailer: iPad Mail (9B176) From: Thomas D Nadeau Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 07:50:06 -0400 To: "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" Cc: "Carlos Pignataro\(cpignata\)" , "pwe3@ietf.org" Subject: Re: [PWE3] Updates to goals and milestones X-BeenThere: pwe3@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Pseudo Wires Edge to Edge List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 11:50:09 -0000 --Apple-Mail-C75CDB7E-9A92-40AB-B444-390BD15151EC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Agreed. On May 8, 2012, at 6:19 AM, "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" wrote: > Greg, Carlos, >=20 > I think this milestone started life as referring to any PW OAM extensions r= equired for MPLS-TP. However, it has become very ambiguous. There are really= a number of objectives that we should capture, including at least the follo= wing: >=20 > Additional VCCV Channel Type using the GAL > VCCV capability negotiation for MPLS-TP OAM tools. > Rationalisation of VCCV (RFC5085bis) >=20 > I think we could replace this milestone with milestones for the above. >=20 > Regards >=20 > Matthew >=20 > On 04/05/2012 20:53, "Gregory Mirsky" wrote:= >=20 > Dear Matthew, Carlos, et al., > I agree with Carlos that updates to VCCV Control Channels resulting from d= iscussion of GAL as Type 4 VCCV CC, perhaps as RFC5085bis, can be captured i= n Milestones. But I think that this work not necessarily tied with CV capabi= lity extension that, I think, referenced as "Enhanced PW OAM". > =20 > Regards, > Greg > From: pwe3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Ca= rlos Pignataro (cpignata) > Sent: Friday, May 04, 2012 4:38 AM > To: Bocci, Matthew (Matthew) > Cc: pwe3@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [PWE3] Updates to goals and milestones >=20 > Matthew, >=20 > In Paris there was discussion (and subsequent followup) about a VCCV-bis d= ocument. I am not sure if a formal consensus call was issued on that, but I w= onder if it needs to be captured as a milestone (or how it relates to "Enhan= ced PW OAM").=20 >=20 > Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro. > Excuze typofraphicak errows >=20 > On May 4, 2012, at 6:39 AM, "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" wrote: >=20 >> All, >>=20 >> Please find below a proposed list of updates to the WG goals and mileston= es that was presented in Paris, with one modification pushing the P2MP Requi= rements LC back to Dec 2012. >>=20 >> Please post any comments to the list before Friday 11th May. >>=20 >> Matthew >>=20 >> Done - PWE3 WG started, organize editing teams. >> Done - Hold interim meeting, including discussion of priority of se= rvice-specific documents and consider pruning some deliverables >> Done - Accept drafts of service-specific documents as WG items >> Done - PW Requirements Document Last Call >> Done - TDM Circuit Documents Last Call >> Done - ATM Documents Last Call >> Done - Ethernet Documents Last Call >> Done - Fragmentation LC >> Done - TDM Requirements LC >> Done - SONET Documents Last Call >> Done - TDM Documents Last Call >> Done - Frame Relay Documents Last Call >> Done - FCS retention Last Call >> Done - Multi-Segment PW Requirements LC >> Done - VCCV LC >> Done - PWE3 Services MIBs LC >> Done - PPP/HDLC PW LC >> Done - Wildcard FEC LC >> Done - TDM Signaling LC >> Done- Multi-Segment Architecture LC >> Done - Basic Pseudowire MIBs LC >> Done - PW OAM Mapping LC >> Done - Multi-Segment PW LC >> Done - PW Protection and Restoration Requirements LC >> Done - PW Protection and Restoration Architecture >> Done - Generic Associated Channel Header LC >> Done - PW Protection and Restoration LC >> Done - Fiber Channel Encap LC >> Done- Multipath PW LC >> Done - Packet PW Requirements / solution >> Dec 2012- P2MP Requirements LC >> Done =E2=80=93 PW Status signalling in static/MPLS-TP >> July 2012 - Dynamic MS PW LC >> Sept 2012- Enhanced PW OAM >> Sept 2011 =E2=80=93 Signaling extensions for MPLS-TP OAM >> Dec 2012- Multisegment PW MIB >> Dec 2012- Security Considerations LC >> Dec 2012=E2=80=93 Congestion Considerations=20 >> Dec 2012- P2MP PW Signaling (root initiated) >> Dec 2012=E2=80=93 P2MP PW Signaling (leaf initiated) >> _______________________________________________ >> pwe3 mailing list >> pwe3@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 > _______________________________________________ > pwe3 mailing list > pwe3@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3 --Apple-Mail-C75CDB7E-9A92-40AB-B444-390BD15151EC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Agreed.


<= div>
On May 8, 2012, at 6:19 AM, "Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)" <matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com> wrote:

Dear Matthew, Carlos, et al.,
I agree with Carlos that u= pdates to VCCV Control Channels resulting from discussion of GAL as Type 4 V= CCV CC, perhaps as RFC5085bis, can be captured in Milestones. But I think that this work not necessarily tied with C= V capability extension that, I think, referenced as "Enhanced PW OAM".
 <= /div>
    Regards,
     =    Greg
From: pw= e3-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:pwe= 3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
Sent: Friday, May 0= 4, 2012 4:38 AM
To: Bocci, Matthew (Matthew)
Cc: pwe3@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [PWE3] Up= dates to goals and milestones

Matthew,

In Paris there was discussion (and subsequent follow= up) about a VCCV-bis document. I am not sure if a formal consensus call was i= ssued on that, but I wonder if it needs to be captured as a milestone (or ho= w it relates to "Enhanced PW OAM"). 

Thumb typed by Carlos Pignataro.
matthew.bocci@alcatel-lucent.com> w= rote:

All,

Please find below a proposed list of up= dates to the WG goals and milestones that was presented in Paris, with one m= odification pushing the P2MP Requirements LC back to Dec 2012.

Please post any comments to the list before Friday= 11th May.

=
Matthew

 Done   &= nbsp; - PWE3 WG started, organize editing teams.

&nbs= p; Done     - Hold interim meeting, including discussion= of priority of service-specific documents and consider pruning some deliverables

  Done     - Accept drafts of ser= vice-specific documents as WG items

  Done =     - PW Requirements Document Last Call

  Done     - ATM Documents Last C= all

  Done     - Ethernet Doc= uments Last Call

  Done     - = Fragmentation LC

  Done     - T= DM Requirements LC

  Done    = ; - SONET Documents Last Call

  Done  =    - TDM Documents Last Call

  Done&nbs= p;    - Frame Relay Documents Last Call

  Done     - Multi-Segment PW Requiremen= ts LC

  Done     - VCCV LC

  = Done     - PWE3 Services MIBs LC

=   Done     - PPP/HDLC PW LC

=   Done     - Wildcard FEC LC

  Done     - TDM Signaling LC

  Done- Multi-Se= gment Architecture LC

  Done   &nb= sp; - Basic Pseudowire MIBs LC

  Done - PW OAM M= apping LC

  Done - Multi-Segment PW LC

  Done - PW Protection and Restoration Requirements= LC

  Done - PW Protection and Restoration Archi= tecture

  Done - Generic Associated Channel Head= er LC

  D  Done -= Fiber Channel Encap LC

  Done- Multipath PW LC

  Done  - Packet PW Requirements / solution

  Dec  2012= - P2MP Requirements LC

  Done  =E2=80=93 PW Status signalling in static/MPLS-TP

  July 2012 - Dynamic MS PW LC

<= p style=3D"MARGIN-TOP: 2pt; MARGIN-BOTTOM: 0pt; VERTICAL-ALIGN: baseline; DI= RECTION: ltr; unicode-bidi: embed; TEXT-ALIGN: left">  Sept <= /span>2012- Enhanced PW OAM

  Sept 2= 011 =E2=80=93 Signaling extensions for MPLS-TP OAM

  Dec 2012- <= /span>Multisegment PW MIB

  Dec 2012- Security Considerations LC

  Dec 2012=E2=80=93 Congestion Considerat= ions 

<= span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: Arial"> Dec  2012- P2MP PW Signaling (root initiated)

 Dec =E2=80=93 P2MP PW Sig= naling (leaf initiated)

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