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From: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [PWE3] Comments to draft-nadeau-pwe3-vccv-2-01
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Dear Authors,
perhaps I've missed your response and I've decided to re-post.

Regards,
Greg

On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Authors,
> please find my comments below.
>
>    - this proposal is closely related to changes to RFC 5586 put forward
>    in draft-lm-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-00 but there's no reference to the draft.
>    - RFC 5586 states and the draft-lm-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-00 maintains
>    that in MPLS-TP network the GAL must be BoS. Only in non-TP MPLS netowrks
>    GAL might be not a BoS. In your proposal the GAL precedes the PW and thus is
>    not BoS. But the document's scope is for all MPLS PWs, including over
>    MPLS-TP PSN. Unless statement in Section 4.2 RFC 5586 "In MPLS-TP (GAL) ...
>    MUST always be at the bottom of the label stack (i.e., S bit set to 1)"
>    updated proposed use of GAL is allowed only in non-TP MPLS PSN.
>    - Section 2 lists of allowed ACH. Since these are hexadecimal numbers
>    I'd suggest prepending them with '0x' to make as "0x07, 0x21, and 0x57". And
>    I'd ask for clarification of "allowed". Is it "MAY", "SHOULD" or "MUST" be
>    limited to ... A, B, C"?
>    - In Section 3 stated that TTL in PW LSE must be set to 1 for SS-PW and
>    to appropriate value in MS-PW to reach intended PE. Hence my question, Is
>    this mechanism to reach MIP, i.e. S-PE, or this is mechanism to generate
>    exception? But that is how PW VCCV Control Channel Type 3 works. What is the
>    interpretation of GAL in a label stack? To indicate PW CW after the PW LSE?
>    - editorial - in Abstract s/The MPLS/the MPLS or a reference to,
>    perhaps, RFC 5654.
>
>
> Regards,
> Greg
>
>
>
>

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Dear Authors,<br>perhaps I&#39;ve missed your response and I&#39;ve decided=
 to re-post.<br><br>Regards,<br>Greg<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F=
ri, Mar 11, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Greg Mirsky <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"m=
ailto:gregimirsky@gmail.com">gregimirsky@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br=
>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">Dear Authors,<br>please find my comments be=
low.<br><ul><li>this proposal is closely related to changes to RFC 5586 put=
 forward in draft-lm-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-00 but there&#39;s no reference=
 to the draft.</li>
<li>RFC 5586 states and the draft-lm-pwe3-mpls-tp-gal-in-pw-00 maintains th=
at in MPLS-TP network the GAL must be BoS. Only in non-TP MPLS netowrks GAL=
 might be not a BoS. In your proposal the GAL precedes the PW and thus is n=
ot BoS. But the document&#39;s scope is for all MPLS PWs, including over MP=
LS-TP PSN. Unless statement in Section 4.2 RFC 5586 &quot;In MPLS-TP (GAL) =
... MUST always be at the bottom of the label stack   (i.e., S bit set to 1=
)&quot; updated proposed use of GAL is allowed only in non-TP MPLS PSN.</li=
>

<li>Section 2 lists of allowed ACH. Since these are hexadecimal numbers I&#=
39;d suggest prepending them with &#39;0x&#39; to make as &quot;0x07, 0x21,=
 and 0x57&quot;. And I&#39;d ask for clarification of &quot;allowed&quot;. =
Is it &quot;MAY&quot;, &quot;SHOULD&quot; or &quot;MUST&quot; be limited to=
 ... A, B, C&quot;?</li>

<li>In Section 3 stated that TTL in PW LSE must be set to 1 for SS-PW and t=
o appropriate value in MS-PW to reach intended PE. Hence my question, Is th=
is mechanism to reach MIP, i.e. S-PE, or this is mechanism to generate exce=
ption? But that is how PW VCCV Control Channel Type 3 works. What is the in=
terpretation of GAL in a label stack? To indicate PW CW after the PW LSE?</=
li>

<li>editorial - in Abstract s/The MPLS/the MPLS or a reference to, perhaps,=
 RFC 5654.<br></li></ul><br>Regards,<br><font color=3D"#888888">Greg<br><br=
><br><pre><span><h1><br></h1></span></pre>
</font></blockquote></div><br>

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