Re: [PWE3] WG Last call for draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02? (was: IPR poll for draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02)

Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com> Tue, 29 July 2014 13:54 UTC

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From: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>
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Sasha,

Thanks for spotting these problems in the draft, all of which are good catches.

I will fix in a final respin after the WG LC.

Y(J)S

From: pwe3 [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Alexander Vainshtein
Sent: 28 July, 2014 03:04
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Subject: [PWE3] WG Last call for draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02? (was: IPR poll for draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02)

Andy and all,
Somehow I did not find an explicit WGLC message for this draft (neither in my archive nor in the WG one).

Nevertheless, I support requesting publication of this draft as an Informational RFC.


I have a few editorial comments:

1.       On page 6 the text says “International standards place stringent limits on the number of such faults tolerated”.  I assume the reference is to ITU-T Recommendation G.826, but it would be nice to state that explicitly; I am also not sure whether plural (“standards”) is justified here.

2.       Also on page 6, I suggest inserting the multiplication signs (asterisks) in the formula  in the same way it is done in Section 3.1 of RFC 5348<http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5348> (from which this formula is taken)

3.       On page 11, “Second, the derivation assumed that the TDM PW was competing with long-lived TDM flows” presumably should be “Second, the derivation assumed that the TDM PW was competing with long-lived TCP flows”.

4.       On page 18, “Note that if the error condition AIS was detected according to the criteria of ITU-T Recommendation G.775 [G826]” presumably should be “Note that if the error condition AIS was detected according to the criteria of ITU-T Recommendation G.775 [G775]”.



IMO neither of these comments requires posting a new version of the draft prior to requesting its publication; hopefully they can be handled in the process of approval and publication.

I’d like to thank Yaakov, David and Bob for their effort. I find very symbolic that the congestion issue that has been raised in the early days of PWE3 is – at long last – successfully resolved without any retro-fitting of widely deployed mechanisms defined by the PWE3.

Regards,
       Sasha
Email: Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com<mailto:Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
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From: pwe3 [mailto:pwe3-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis
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Subject: [PWE3] IPR poll for draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02

http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02.pdf is now in PWE3 WG last call. As part of the last call process, we need to poll the authors and WG for IPR information on the draft.

Are you aware of any IPR that applies to draft-ietf-pwe3-congcons-02?

If so, has this IPR been disclosed in compliance with IETF IPR rules
(see RFCs 3979, 4879, 3669 and 5378 for more details)? Note that there
are currently no IPR disclosures in the IETF datatracker.

If you are listed as a document author or contributor please respond
to this email regardless of whether or not you are aware of any
relevant IPR. The response needs to be sent to the PWE3 WG mailing
list. The document will not advance to the next stage until a response
has been received from each author and each contributor.

If you are on the PWE3 WG email list but are not listed as an author
or contributor, then please explicitly respond only if you are aware
of any IPR that has not yet been disclosed in conformance with IETF
rules.

Thanks,
Andy