Return-Path: <yaakov_s@rad.com>
X-Original-To: pwe3@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: pwe3@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix)
 with ESMTP id B889B21F859B for <pwe3@ietfa.amsl.com>;
 Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:14:46 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -102.467
X-Spam-Level: 
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-102.467 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.130,
 BAYES_00=-2.599, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001,
 USER_IN_WHITELIST=-100]
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com
 [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id leZ1U5r3QSBs for
 <pwe3@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:14:45 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from rad.co.il (mailrelay02.rad.co.il [62.0.23.237]) by
 ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0262721F859E for <pwe3@ietf.org>;
 Sun, 15 Jul 2012 05:14:36 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from Internal Mail-Server by MailRelay02 (envelope-from
 yaakov?s@rad.com) with AES128-SHA encrypted SMTP; 15 Jul 2012 14:39:41 +0300
Received: from EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il ([192.114.24.28]) by EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il
 ([192.114.24.28]) with mapi id 14.02.0298.004; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 15:15:12 +0300
From: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>
To: pwe3 <pwe3@ietf.org>
Thread-Topic: New Version Notification for draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01.txt
Thread-Index: Ac1ig3nTQp82kwJuTPulyQwLUFpGYA==
Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:15:11 +0000
Message-ID: <07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC9044E59C4@EXRAD5.ad.rad.co.il>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
x-cr-puzzleid: {F0D5288D-67C1-41F8-B20D-EADA1DAEF3A5}
x-cr-hashedpuzzle: ATQq Azy8 BICX Bck9 D0PI FubT HTZm HT8p IUg5 IX6d JEZG JeW1
 J7Cq KBiF Keaf LL00; 1; cAB3AGUAMwBAAGkAZQB0AGYALgBvAHIAZwA=; Sosha1_v1; 7;
 {F0D5288D-67C1-41F8-B20D-EADA1DAEF3A5};
 eQBhAGEAawBvAHYAXwBzAEAAcgBhAGQALgBjAG8AbQA=; Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:15:08 GMT;
 TgBlAHcAIABWAGUAcgBzAGkAbwBuACAATgBvAHQAaQBmAGkAYwBhAHQAaQBvAG4AIABmAG8AcgAgAGQAcgBhAGYAdAAtAHMAdABlAGkAbgAtAHAAdwBlADMALQBjAG8AbgBnAGMAbwBuAHMALQAwADEALgB0AHgAdAA=
x-originating-ip: [172.17.141.36]
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
 boundary="_000_07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC9044E59C4EXRAD5adradcoil_"
MIME-Version: 1.0
X-Commtouch-Refid: str=0001.0A090205.5002B450.0054,ss=1,fgs=0
Subject: [PWE3] New Version Notification for draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01.txt
X-BeenThere: pwe3@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12
Precedence: list
List-Id: Pseudo Wires Edge to Edge <pwe3.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/pwe3>,
 <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/pwe3>
List-Post: <mailto:pwe3@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/pwe3>,
 <mailto:pwe3-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2012 12:14:46 -0000

--_000_07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC9044E59C4EXRAD5adradcoil_
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I have submitted a new version of the PW congestion considerations draft

(co-authored by David Black and Bob Briscoe),

and have asked for a slot to discuss it in Vancouver.



Please read the PDF version, since it has the figures.



Y(J)S



---------------------------------------------------------------------------=
----------------

A new version of I-D, draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01.txt has been successfull=
y submitted by Yaakov (Jonathan) Stein and posted to the IETF repository.



Filename:   draft-stein-pwe3-congcons

Revision:   01

Title:            PW Congestion Considerations

Creation date:    2012-07-15

WG ID:            Individual Submission

Number of pages: 13

URL:             http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stein-pwe3-congc=
ons-01.txt

Status:          http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stein-pwe3-congcons

Htmlized:        http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01

Diff:            http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-stein-pwe3-cong=
cons-01



Abstract:

   Pseudowires (PWs) have become a common mechanism for tunneling

   traffic, and may be found competing for network resources both with

   other PWs and with non-PW traffic, such as TCP/IP flows.  It is thus

   worthwhile specifying under what conditions such competition is safe,

   i.e., the PW traffic does not significantly harm other traffic or

   contribute more than it should to congestion.  We conclude that PWs

   transporting responsive traffic behave as desired without the need

   for additional mechanisms.  For inelastic PWs (such as TDM PWs) we

   derive a bound under which such PWs consume no more network capacity

   than a TCP flow.









The IETF Secretariat


--_000_07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC9044E59C4EXRAD5adradcoil_
Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<html xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-micr=
osoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" =
xmlns:x=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:excel" xmlns:p=3D"urn:schemas-m=
icrosoft-com:office:powerpoint" xmlns:a=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office=
:access" xmlns:dt=3D"uuid:C2F41010-65B3-11d1-A29F-00AA00C14882" xmlns:s=3D"=
uuid:BDC6E3F0-6DA3-11d1-A2A3-00AA00C14882" xmlns:rs=3D"urn:schemas-microsof=
t-com:rowset" xmlns:z=3D"#RowsetSchema" xmlns:b=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-co=
m:office:publisher" xmlns:ss=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:spreadshee=
t" xmlns:c=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:component:spreadsheet" xmlns=
:odc=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:odc" xmlns:oa=3D"urn:schemas-micro=
soft-com:office:activation" xmlns:html=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" =
xmlns:q=3D"http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/" xmlns:rtc=3D"http://m=
icrosoft.com/officenet/conferencing" xmlns:D=3D"DAV:" xmlns:Repl=3D"http://=
schemas.microsoft.com/repl/" xmlns:mt=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/share=
point/soap/meetings/" xmlns:x2=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/office/excel=
/2003/xml" xmlns:ppda=3D"http://www.passport.com/NameSpace.xsd" xmlns:ois=
=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/ois/" xmlns:dir=3D"http://=
schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/directory/" xmlns:ds=3D"http://www.w3=
.org/2000/09/xmldsig#" xmlns:dsp=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint=
/dsp" xmlns:udc=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc" xmlns:xsd=3D"http=
://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema" xmlns:sub=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sha=
repoint/soap/2002/1/alerts/" xmlns:ec=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001/04/xmlenc#"=
 xmlns:sp=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/" xmlns:sps=3D"http://=
schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/" xmlns:xsi=3D"http://www.w3.org/2001=
/XMLSchema-instance" xmlns:udcs=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/so=
ap" xmlns:udcxf=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/xmlfile" xmlns:udc=
p2p=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/data/udc/parttopart" xmlns:wf=3D"http:/=
/schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/workflow/" xmlns:dsss=3D"http://sche=
mas.microsoft.com/office/2006/digsig-setup" xmlns:dssi=3D"http://schemas.mi=
crosoft.com/office/2006/digsig" xmlns:mdssi=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformat=
s.org/package/2006/digital-signature" xmlns:mver=3D"http://schemas.openxmlf=
ormats.org/markup-compatibility/2006" xmlns:m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.c=
om/office/2004/12/omml" xmlns:mrels=3D"http://schemas.openxmlformats.org/pa=
ckage/2006/relationships" xmlns:spwp=3D"http://microsoft.com/sharepoint/web=
partpages" xmlns:ex12t=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/20=
06/types" xmlns:ex12m=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/exchange/services/200=
6/messages" xmlns:pptsl=3D"http://schemas.microsoft.com/sharepoint/soap/Sli=
deLibrary/" xmlns:spsl=3D"http://microsoft.com/webservices/SharePointPortal=
Server/PublishedLinksService" xmlns:Z=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" xmlns:=
st=3D"&#1;" xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
<head>
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dus-ascii"=
>
<meta name=3D"Generator" content=3D"Microsoft Word 12 (filtered medium)">
<style>
<!--
 /* Font Definitions */
 @font-face
	{font-family:Calibri;
	panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
@font-face
	{font-family:Consolas;
	panose-1:2 11 6 9 2 2 4 3 2 4;}
 /* Style Definitions */
 p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal
	{margin:0cm;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:11.0pt;
	font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";}
a:link, span.MsoHyperlink
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:blue;
	text-decoration:underline;}
a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	color:purple;
	text-decoration:underline;}
p.MsoPlainText, li.MsoPlainText, div.MsoPlainText
	{mso-style-priority:99;
	mso-style-link:"Plain Text Char";
	margin:0cm;
	margin-bottom:.0001pt;
	font-size:10.5pt;
	font-family:Consolas;}
span.EmailStyle17
	{mso-style-type:personal-compose;
	font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
	color:windowtext;}
span.PlainTextChar
	{mso-style-name:"Plain Text Char";
	mso-style-priority:99;
	mso-style-link:"Plain Text";
	font-family:Consolas;}
.MsoChpDefault
	{mso-style-type:export-only;}
@page Section1
	{size:612.0pt 792.0pt;
	margin:72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt;}
div.Section1
	{page:Section1;}
-->
</style><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapedefaults v:ext=3D"edit" spidmax=3D"1026" />
</xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml>
 <o:shapelayout v:ext=3D"edit">
  <o:idmap v:ext=3D"edit" data=3D"1" />
 </o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]-->
</head>
<body lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple">
<div class=3D"Section1">
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">I have submitted a new version of the PW congesti=
on considerations draft<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">(co-authored by David Black and Bob Briscoe),<o:p=
></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">and have asked for a slot to discuss it in Vancou=
ver.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Please read the PDF version, since it has the fig=
ures.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Y(J)S<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">-------------------------------------------------=
------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">A new version of I-D, draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-0=
1.txt has been successfully submitted by Yaakov (Jonathan) Stein and posted=
 to the IETF repository.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Filename:&nbsp;&nbsp; draft-stein-pwe3-congcons<o=
:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Revision:&nbsp;&nbsp; 01<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Title:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; PW Congestion Considerations<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Creation date:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2012-07-15<o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">WG ID:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Individual Submission<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Number of pages: 13<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">URL:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nb=
sp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/=
draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01.txt">
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01.txt</a><o:=
p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Status:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stein-pwe3-co=
ngcons">
http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-stein-pwe3-congcons</a><o:p></o:p></p=
>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Htmlized:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01">
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01</a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Diff:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&n=
bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <a href=3D"http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraf=
t-stein-pwe3-congcons-01">
http://tools.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=3Ddraft-stein-pwe3-congcons-01</a><o:p><=
/o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">Abstract:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; Pseudowires (PWs) have become a comm=
on mechanism for tunneling<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; traffic, and may be found competing =
for network resources both with<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; other PWs and with non-PW traffic, s=
uch as TCP/IP flows.&nbsp; It is thus<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; worthwhile specifying under what con=
ditions such competition is safe,<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; i.e., the PW traffic does not signif=
icantly harm other traffic or<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; contribute more than it should to co=
ngestion.&nbsp; We conclude that PWs<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; transporting responsive traffic beha=
ve as desired without the need<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; for additional mechanisms.&nbsp; For=
 inelastic PWs (such as TDM PWs) we<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; derive a bound under which such PWs =
consume no more network capacity<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp; than a TCP flow.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&=
nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoPlainText">The IETF Secretariat<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
</body>
</html>

--_000_07F7D7DED63154409F13298786A2ADC9044E59C4EXRAD5adradcoil_--
