Re: [PWE3] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection-01

"Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com> Sun, 10 August 2014 09:24 UTC

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From: "Stewart Bryant (stbryant)" <stbryant@cisco.com>
To: Alexander Vainshtein <Alexander.Vainshtein@ecitele.com>
Thread-Topic: [PWE3] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection-01
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Cc: Yakov Rekhter <yakov@juniper.net>, "pwe3@ietf.org" <pwe3@ietf.org>, "Eric Rosen (erosen)" <erosen@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [PWE3] WG Last Call for draft-ietf-pwe3-endpoint-fast-protection-01
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ECMP paths to xPEs naturally form and disappear in LDP PSNs (they are a fundamental property of that PSN type) and it is entirely normal  to find an ECMP to an xPE.

So, if you have a PW that is load balancing (again quite normal) and one of the attachments to the xPE fails, you can legitimately end  up with some traffic on one egress AC and some on another.

please you confirm that this design works correctly when a PE gets its traffic from both ACs?

Stewart