Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)
Carl-Uno Manros <carl@manros.com> Thu, 02 July 1998 15:46 UTC
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Date: Thu, 02 Jul 1998 08:31:11 -0700
To: Keith Moore <moore@cs.utk.edu>
From: Carl-Uno Manros <carl@manros.com>
Subject: Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)
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Keith, Please see this attachment which describes the proposal worked out by Randy Turner and Larry Masinter. Case 3 in that proposal caused a number of people to object, pointing out that the previous assumption that ipp: would not be used over the wire was not true any more. There was also discussion about which format the IPP Printer generated Job URIs should have. They are hardly ever seen by and end user and could as well be in http: format. The result would have been that the client would have had to cover for URIs coming back in either scheme and always have to be able to convert between them. The more we discussed this, the more causes we found that the ipp: scheme was not such a bright idea after all. As for the suggestion to include a security paramter in the ipp: scheme, this was adviced against also by Randy and Larry, as it would make the ipp: non-mappable in the http: to ipp: direction. We believe that the current solution to identify what security is supported by a printer works well without the need for a parameter in the scheme. This is my short answer and explanation right now. I assume that other members of the WG can give you further arguments, but many have already started their July 4th celebrations. Carl-Uno At 12:46 AM 7/2/98 -0400, you wrote: >On a careful re-reading the list of resolutions for the IPP >documents, I was surprised to see that the WG had decided not >to adopt an "ipp:" URL prefix. (I was out of town last >week and unable to follow the list as closely as I would >have liked.) > >In my earlier poll of IESG there was strong agreement that both >a separate port and a new URL prefix were needed, though the >questions were not asked separately We're having a phone >conference on July 2 (today or tomorrow depending on your >current time zone), so I'll ask them again just to be sure. > >Other than the issue with interoperability with http proxies >(which are easily addressed), I'd like to know what the >technical problems were with using an "ipp:" prefix. I've >reviewed most of the list discussion since the teleconference >that I participated in, and didn't see any good explanation >of why this would cause problems. > >Keith > >
- IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Carl-Uno Manros
- RE: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Paul Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- RE: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Paul Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Carl-Uno Manros
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Tom Hastings
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Carl-Uno Manros
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Scott Isaacson
- RE: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Josh Cohen
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Carl-Uno Manros
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Scott Lawrence
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Randy Turner
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Carl-Uno Manros
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Robert Herriot
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- RE: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Josh Cohen
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Jay Martin
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)[a… Tom Hastings
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)[a… Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)[a… Tom Hastings
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)[a… Keith Moore
- IPP> clarification needed re: "ipp:" proposal Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) papowell
- Re: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...)[a… Tom Hastings
- RE: IPP> regarding "ipp:" (I spoke too soon...) Ron Bergman
- IPP> On clarifying the proposal for a new IPP sch… Tom Hastings
- IPP> Re: On clarifying the proposal for a new IPP… Keith Moore
- Re: IPP> Re: On clarifying the proposal for a new… Carl-Uno Manros