RE: IPP> ipp: / http: in the UI

Paul Moore <paulmo@microsoft.com> Wed, 15 July 1998 18:19 UTC

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From: Paul Moore <paulmo@microsoft.com>
To: "'Jay Martin'" <jkm@underscore.com>
Cc: "'ipp@pwg.org'" <ipp@pwg.org>
Subject: RE: IPP> ipp: / http: in the UI
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:13:01 -0700
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You misunderstand my suggestion. I mean that printto: is like mailto: - it
loads a client and passes in the destination address. It has nothing to do
with the protocol that gets used to send the print. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Jay Martin [SMTP:jkm@underscore.com]
> Sent:	Wednesday, July 15, 1998 10:40 AM
> To:	Paul Moore
> Cc:	'ipp@pwg.org'
> Subject:	Re: IPP> ipp: / http: in the UI
> 
> Paul,
> 
> > (Actually I quite like 'printto:' - what do others think).
> 
> Glad you brought this up.  If the final resolution of this whole
> scheme issue results in something *other* than "http:", then
> I'd prefer Keith's suggestion of "print:" as a scheme as opposed
> to your "printto:", since the "to" suffix is both unnecessary
> and counter-intuitive (given that the PDU can very well contain
> requests that are not job submissions).
> 
> 
> > Saying that IPP lets me know that its a printer is an excuse for bad
> design.
> > Any UI  that expects people to differentiate by hovering over the link
> and
> > looking at the status bar is broken.
> 
> Perhaps you're right that the UI should *not* expect this
> "hovering" behavior, but nonetheless it is quite prevalent
> from what I've experienced.  That is, I don't think we should
> discount the frequency and value of hovering as part of a
> positive user experience.
> 
> 
> > Nobody is going to put printer URLs on their business cards.
> 
> Do you really believe this?  I mean, an aweful lot of IPP
> proponents (in the PWG) clearly believe that one of the greatest
> values of IPP is its use as a fax-alike mechanism.  I honestly
> don't think such a capability is nearly as powerful a potential
> as some of these people seem to believe, but there will be some
> who actually implement this, IMHO.
> 
> 	...jay
> 
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