Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subsection 'The first quantum networks may not be "routing and forwarding" networks.'
Shota NAGAYAMA <shota.nagayama@mercari.com> Fri, 17 April 2020 23:35 UTC
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Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2020 08:35:24 +0900
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Subject: Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subsection 'The first quantum networks may not be "routing and forwarding" networks.'
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Hi Wojtek, I've updated the pull request. I meant to clarify that routing would be the same, however, it might have been confusing. I have left out routing; just store-and-forward and store-and-swap are compared. And I added a section about generations. Please see other points on the pull request page and the document. --Shota ------------------------------------------------ 永山翔太 Shota Nagayama shota.nagayama@mercari.com https://shota.io/ https://qitf.org/ https://r4d.mercari.com On Fri, Apr 3, 2020 at 6:32 PM Wojciech Kozlowski <W.Kozlowski@tudelft.nl> wrote: > Hi Shota, > > Thanks for your contribution! > > I've reviewed your update. My detailed review comments are on the GitHub > repo: > https://github.com/Wojtek242/draft-irtf-qirg-principles/pull/5#pullrequestreview-387089034 > > In summary: > > Overall, I think your contribution makes a very important point that will > be very useful for people coming from a classical background. My comments > are mostly about clarifying what you meant. With further clarifications, > your contribution can be merged. > > > I am also not sure about this "routing and forwarding" and "routing and > swapping" terminology. Is it common? I know of "store-and-forward" and > perhaps we can say "store-and-swap" which highlights the need for memory > (some proposals do not need a memory, not sure if they will be practical > any time soon though). Also "store-and-swap" suggests we can keep things in > memory for a long time which is not the case. I think this would be a good > point to discuss. I would definitely suggest leaving routing completely out > of this section as it is not actually discussed at all. > > > Wojtek > > > On Tue, 2020-03-31 at 14:02 +0900, Shota NAGAYAMA wrote: > > Hi Wojtek, > > How are things going? I'm looking forward to your review. > > BTW, it's very nice that now you are a co-chair of the group :) > > Thanks, > Shota > ------------------------------------------------ > 永山翔太 Shota Nagayama > shota.nagayama@mercari.com > https://shota.io/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__shota.io_&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=SSe8nfX7Q27kWqyic_1YxDWtHXWE-492zzxBnKyvcDA&s=e7e0ouv4Yq7s8KyDdBBHKM7RF-nKr_0iLOZsRcyKMxk&e=> > https://qitf.org/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__qitf.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=SSe8nfX7Q27kWqyic_1YxDWtHXWE-492zzxBnKyvcDA&s=y3h0gz6GnUT9x1OpbKkqX_2CMG3DZ5pMnFpmwIExaTI&e=> > https://r4d.mercari.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__r4d.mercari.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=SSe8nfX7Q27kWqyic_1YxDWtHXWE-492zzxBnKyvcDA&s=7AWoJwX6ypg-cUFHSwdyQaxiRB4mWAUdlwWH0CMNmyg&e=> > > > On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 5:53 PM Wojciech Kozlowski <W.Kozlowski@tudelft.nl> > wrote: > > Hi Shota, > > Thanks for your contribution. I haven't had time to look at it yet so I > won't include it in the draft I upload today. I will try to review it > before Vancouver though so at least the work can still go on. > > Thanks, > Wojtek > > On Fri, 2020-03-06 at 01:51 +0900, Shota NAGAYAMA wrote: > > Hi, > > I finally made a pull request for 'The first quantum networks may not be > "routing and forwarding" networks.' subsection in the new challenges > section. This subsection tells what is caused by the fact that Bell pairs > are undirected network resources. Please find it. > > https://github.com/Wojtek242/draft-irtf-qirg-principles/pull/5 > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Wojtek242_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples_pull_5&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=wLaiWvpUZ5lb_P0nUOLjyde3okLuO2zPyxHFWPr3_VM&s=-sTHDClmClG4EIhCAKj9azqNfPLpgPb_e0cEi-3bmys&e=> > > ------------------------------------------------ > 永山翔太 Shota Nagayama > shota.nagayama@mercari.com > https://shota.io/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__shota.io_&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=wLaiWvpUZ5lb_P0nUOLjyde3okLuO2zPyxHFWPr3_VM&s=Qx2Pi5RpW5eFvMfMQc_CwyafjSl8U7c1ZtiUXV8imDo&e=> > https://qitf.org/ > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__qitf.org_&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=wLaiWvpUZ5lb_P0nUOLjyde3okLuO2zPyxHFWPr3_VM&s=n0L3EMEwnxHvv2LAuLvgxvvKDoaCjL9PRCiPtFfUTV8&e=> > https://r4d.mercari.com > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__r4d.mercari.com&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=wLaiWvpUZ5lb_P0nUOLjyde3okLuO2zPyxHFWPr3_VM&s=fOR-fYIq-0jJJzCMkbmHPjRgDX9VvP5tEEGb7S39W4M&e=> > > _______________________________________________ > > Qirg mailing list > > Qirg@irtf.org > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.irtf.org_mailman_listinfo_qirg&d=DwICAg&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=wLaiWvpUZ5lb_P0nUOLjyde3okLuO2zPyxHFWPr3_VM&s=AsjKClF3rnjkQc4PUebFFsqBP_YQrh5cNjyCqvalD68&e= > > > _______________________________________________ > Qirg mailing list > Qirg@irtf.org > https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/qirg > <https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.irtf.org_mailman_listinfo_qirg&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=SSe8nfX7Q27kWqyic_1YxDWtHXWE-492zzxBnKyvcDA&s=xwTVo7VAuf97wRriYn1xNDrsJRtkD5tIx94Wcce68ps&e=> > >
- [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subsecti… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… VAN DEN BOSSCHE Mathias
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Scott Fluhrer (sfluhrer)
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Wojciech Kozlowski
- Re: [Qirg] Pull request for 'new challenges' subs… Shota NAGAYAMA