Re: [Qirg] Qirg Digest, Vol 16, Issue 1

I agree with ROD.I actually feel quantum generation not  initialize at
all.Still with my limited inside I am aware of  Simulators and commercially
unviable hybrid classical architecture  instead pure quantum .Somewhere in
the making of first generation of quantum commnication/computing....

Dear YS,

I rather feel your different recent generations can be summed in Moore's
law(Intel ).Though I am not much familiar with Qualcomm chips for 4G and
higher generation handsets.

 Its Moore's law constrain of exponential  scaling compute power makes
quantum computing an attractive architecture and somewhat a alternate/
successor of classical computing.

Regards
Gyananjay

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> From: Yaakov Stein <yaakov_s@rad.com>
> To: Rodney Van Meter <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp>
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> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2019 08:05:00 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Qirg] Hardware Components: Wireless Technologies
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> I have never previously thought about these two types of generations at
> the same time.
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> But it would seem that the generations of computing are approximately:
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> 1: (mid) 1940s
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> 2: 1950s (starting with the transistor’s invention in 1956)
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> 3: 1960s (with integrated circuits from about 1964)
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> 4: 1970s (we can take Intel’s 4004 in 1971 as a starting point)
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> (The fifth generation was a failure (or at least didn’t give birth to a
> new generation), so we’ll leave it off.)
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> while the generations of mobile communications are approximately:
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> 1: 1980s (AMPS officially launched in 1982)
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> 2: 1990s (1st GSM call was 1991)
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> 3: 2000s (Telenor’s UMTS from 2001)
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> 4: 2010s (ITU recognized LTE as 4G in Dec 2010)
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> (5G is not here yet (I mean *real* 5G, not just NR with option 3), but it
> will be 2020s)
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> So, mobile communications started where computation left off,
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> and both had approximately a decade per generation.
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> And of course, now the mobile telephone is the most popular computation
> device on the planet,
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> so the two worlds of *computation* and *communications* and have
> completely merged into *computications*.
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> Y(J)S
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> *From:* Qirg [mailto:qirg-bounces@irtf.org] *On Behalf Of *Rodney Van
> Meter
> *Sent:* יום ג 18 יוני 2019 04:24
> *To:* Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Rodney Van Meter <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp>; qirg@irtf.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Qirg] Hardware Components: Wireless Technologies
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> Unfortunately there’s rather a naming collision in generations (“G”). The
> quantum network generations have *nothing at all* to do with the wireless
> cellular generations.
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> Or, for that matter, computing generations. I run a master’s level seminar
> class on Software Systems, and I always have one session on Japan’s
> history.  The student tasked with presenting about the 5G inference engine
> computer program (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifth_generation_computer
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FFifth_generation_computer&data=01%7C01%7Cyaakov_s%40rad.com%7C7fef3efbd6ce47f7b54d08d6f38bae12%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%7C1&sdata=AqPD4CThSDZtDEKmsEhtrRcqavjqmHwZkjpN%2B3H8Ctc%3D&reserved=0>)
> instead first spent an entire day in a wireless 5G seminar before realizing
> she was looking at the wrong thing. She learned quite a lot about both of
> them, though!
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> —Rod
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> Rodney Van Meter
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> Professor, Faculty of Environment and Information Studies
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> Keio University, Japan
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> On Jun 6, 2019, at 22:31, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Dear qirg@irtf.org,
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> The previous message "Re: Hardware Components: Wireless Technologies"
> should be:
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> Looking at the QIRG mail archives of 27th March 2018 by Rodney van Meter
> about "Hardware Components" introduced by a plan for 1G, 2G taxonomy
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> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/qirg/tXFMnQSCKBbwJj0ODhMkJoVyFBg
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Fqirg%2FtXFMnQSCKBbwJj0ODhMkJoVyFBg&data=01%7C01%7Cyaakov_s%40rad.com%7C7fef3efbd6ce47f7b54d08d6f38bae12%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%7C1&sdata=6kKpjxOBjLIeHIgtSdBz3s3hRinymkoljq1BPBtHBkA%3D&reserved=0>
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> : If this reference matters...?
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> "A Survey on 5G Network: Architecture and Emerging Technologies" (GuptaA.
> & R.K. Jha, IEEE Access Vol.3, 2015). It made "Section II. The Evolution of
> Wireless Technologies" mentioning an overview of the evolving wireless
> technologies from 1G, 2G, 2.5G, 3G, 3.75G, 4G to 5G.
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> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7169508
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fieeexplore.ieee.org%2Fdocument%2F7169508&data=01%7C01%7Cyaakov_s%40rad.com%7C7fef3efbd6ce47f7b54d08d6f38bae12%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%7C1&sdata=%2FZ6M5aKb3Tt4RqTv80GyySfW04GsOmaxALWfenRcV1w%3D&reserved=0>
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> Regard,
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> Guntur Wiseno Putra
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> Pada Kamis, 06 Juni 2019, Guntur Wiseno Putra <gsenopu@gmail.com> menulis:
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> Dear qirg@irtf.org,
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> Looking at the QIRG mail archives of 27th March 2018 by Rodney van Meter
> about "Hardware Components" introduced by a plan for 1G, 2G taxonomy: If
> this reference matters...?
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> "A Survey on 5G Network: Architecture and Emerging Technologies" (GuptaA.
> & R.K. Jha, IEEE Access Vol.3, 2015). It made "Section II. The Evolution of
> Wireless Technologies" mentioning an overview of the evolving wireless
> technologies from 1G, 2G, 2.5G, 3G, 3.75G, 4G to 5G.
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> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/qirg/tXFMnQSCKBbwJj0ODhMkJoVyFBg
> <https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailarchive.ietf.org%2Farch%2Fmsg%2Fqirg%2FtXFMnQSCKBbwJj0ODhMkJoVyFBg&data=01%7C01%7Cyaakov_s%40rad.com%7C7fef3efbd6ce47f7b54d08d6f38bae12%7Cf9047108cc2c4e4897a343fad1b3bf9d%7C1&sdata=6kKpjxOBjLIeHIgtSdBz3s3hRinymkoljq1BPBtHBkA%3D&reserved=0>
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> Regard,
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> Guntur Wiseno Putra
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