Re: [Qirg] Update to draft-irtf-qirg-principles
Wojciech Kozlowski <W.Kozlowski@tudelft.nl> Mon, 24 February 2020 12:38 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Qirg] Update to draft-irtf-qirg-principles
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> For an architecture doc, I’d say one of the things we need to do is substantially raise the # of references, in context, of course. This is something I was wondering about and it came up when I was working with Sara on the elementary link generation. What is the right number of references? As an IRTF document (as opposed to an IETF doc) we have flexibility to define what is suitable. Here are some of my thoughts on this: 1. I kept the number of references light, because the intended audience who will benefit the most from this doc (IETF folk) will probably not benefit much from dense physics-heavy quantum networking academic literature. 2. This is an intro document to set the stage for further discussion, not an academic review of the field. 3. Academics for understandable reasons care about being cited, but RFCs don't go into a citation count anyway (I think). 4. Nevertheless, adding references means that the interested reader knows where to look and acknowledges the fields' origin. There is likely a meaningful compromise between my spartan reference list and a full blown review reference list which will cite a 100 papers before the end of the first paragraph. Thoughts, citation suggestions, and PRs all welcome on this topic. Opinions from readers on the list who are not physicists or academics particularly welcome. > For link-layer architectures with memory, there are three major ways you can organize: I believe this has been included now in the elementary link generation section.. Thanks, Wojtek ________________________________ From: Rodney Van Meter <rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp> Sent: 21 February 2020 00:52:54 To: Wojciech Kozlowski Cc: Rodney Van Meter; Qirg@irtf.org Subject: Re: [Qirg] Update to draft-irtf-qirg-principles For an architecture doc, I’d say one of the things we need to do is substantially raise the # of references, in context, of course. For link-layer architectures with memory, there are three major ways you can organize: * memory-to-memory (M—>M) * midpoint interference, which we call M—>I<—M and Cody calls meet-in-the-middle * midpoint source, which we call M<—S—>M Best reference on these is https://iopscience.iop.org/article/10.1088/1367-2630/18/8/083015/meta<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__iopscience.iop.org_article_10.1088_1367-2D2630_18_8_083015_meta&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=ZQsgkvPhFyR8dh5MzPsi7hluRSVQ6-5Yu2mKaLvm6bM&e=> which, blessedly, is open access. I saw a message about a presentation — have we restarted telecons on this doc? If so, my apologies on missing that announcement. Rodney Van Meter Professor, Faculty of Environment and Information Studies Keio University, Japan rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp<mailto:rdv@sfc.wide.ad.jp> On Feb 17, 2020, at 19:17, Wojciech Kozlowski <w.kozlowski@tudelft.nl<mailto:w.kozlowski@tudelft.nl>> wrote: Dear QIRG, I have just added a contribution to the elementary link generation section. Thank you Sara and Marcello. Latest version: https://github.com/Wojtek242/draft-irtf-qirg-principles/blob/master/draft-irtf-qirg-principles-03.txt<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Wojtek242_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples_blob_master_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples-2D03.txt&d=DwMFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=h8UTII244xcn9ku-GQ1u1c--qrLT2IQb_IJrj_IRk00&e=> Diff: https://github.com/Wojtek242/draft-irtf-qirg-principles/commit/3952b2f15f3720325ce42c61c8857a2ede1a0f2e<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__github.com_Wojtek242_draft-2Dirtf-2Dqirg-2Dprinciples_commit_3952b2f15f3720325ce42c61c8857a2ede1a0f2e&d=DwQFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=Fja4CVs6SXH5qSbkXF680Wx7RdABeTNEERA0i8uRiPs&e=> Moving forward: my plan is now to finalise the principles/goals sections. Some feedback has already been given on this subject and I will try to make sure I take it all into account. I propose that for this part, I first write the update myself based on feedback received so far. If you have something to add with regards to this section, please share on the mailing list as soon as you can. I will then upload an update some time next week so that I can incorporate any feedback (deadline for drafts for this IETF is 9 March). Unless these last updates lead to much debate, I'd think this will mark the last few updates to the draft (+ pending PRs). In this case, I would aim to start finalising it after Vancouver. If there are any contentious issue, I will aim to resolve them on the mailing list before the next meeting. Thanks, Wojtek _______________________________________________ Qirg mailing list Qirg@irtf.org https://www.irtf.org/mailman/listinfo/qirg<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.irtf.org_mailman_listinfo_qirg&d=DwQFaQ&c=XYzUhXBD2cD-CornpT4QE19xOJBbRy-TBPLK0X9U2o8&r=xRe3k8UnFVGCjuC7RWUARpslGfYlRaP7D3dVZXHUEVc&m=9oGH87PwWnOQaZwYFdfDUQYApf4nsDV8Q_-j1B3JBwo&s=CtiWk0MpzuFjuCfRQP0wmd1MZnFQPOkQHnseUuJRiwo&e=>
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