Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter ID and length varint (#3294)
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter ID and length varint (#3294)
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@MikeBishop I think I mostly agree with the observation. Draft-12 essentially changed QUIC to a TLS record layer. QUIC now has four record types because that is what TLS 1.3 has. The key discards are designed based on how TLS 1.3 starts using new keys (i.e. handshake key is used by the server first, and the client is the last to use it). And moreover, there is another instance we use uint16, in addition to TPs. That is through the use of `HKDF-Expand-Label` function of TLS. QUIC uses `HKDF-Expand-Label` for deriving protection keys from traffic secrets generated by TLS. As the derivation and use of protection keys is specific to QUIC, we could have directly invoked the `HKDF-Expand` function defined in [RFC 5869](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5869). But in status quo, QUIC uses `HKDF-Expand-Label`, defined in TLS 1.3, which [has a uint16 field in the Label encoding](https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc8446#section-7.1). To me, this looks like an example of encouraging code reuse, much like the use `uint16` for encoding TP ID and lengths. If our principle is going to be to minimize the interface between TLS and QUIC, we should consider changing the points I've stated above. Or if our principle is to encourage (or leave room for) code reuse between TLS and QUIC, the encoding of TP IDs and lengths should be kept as-is, along with the use of `HKDF-Expand-Label`, how we drop keys, the use of four epochs ... -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/3294#issuecomment-565863737
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter ID … David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Jana Iyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Nick Banks
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Marten Seemann
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… ekr
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Brian Trammell
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Lars Eggert
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Lucas Pardue
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… David Schinazi
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Mike Bishop
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Make transport parameter… Martin Thomson