Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] token-based greasing / initial packet protection (#3166)
Kazuho Oku <notifications@github.com> Thu, 31 October 2019 09:11 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] token-based greasing / initial packet protection (#3166)
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kazuho commented on this pull request. > +issues. Such design is not recommended, as an active attacker might build a +list of known alternative version numbers and their initial salts and use that +list to decrypt the payload of Initial packets using those alternative version +numbers. But still, having a set of version numbers and initial salts used +concurrently is considered better than just using the default values of QUIC in +terms of preventing ossification. + +A server MUST NOT send a Version Negotitation packet in response to a long +header packet with an alternative version number it has advertised. + + +## Distributing the Seeds + +This specification defines how the seeds are used as well as how they are +advertised using a NEW_TOKEN frame. Other specifications MAY define other +methods for distributing or deducing these seeds. HTTP/3 defining Alt-Svc, SVCB / HTTPSSVC DNS records, ESNI, to name a few. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/pull/3166#discussion_r341024430
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