Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Clarify Actions on nonzero Reserved Bits (#2280)

martinduke <notifications@github.com> Thu, 10 January 2019 16:11 UTC

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@ianswett My previous reply was too glib. One problem with applying the check right after removing header protection is that the consequences are a connection error -- so a garbage packet has a 3 in 4 chance of taking down the connection.

There are three equilbria here:
1) Simply discard the packet after header protection. As @marten-seemann pointed out, it's not clear why this would provide any sort of intelligence to an attacker, as there is no response.
2) After packet protection, it's a PROTOCOL_VIOLATION. This is the current state of the draft with this PR serving to clarify a bit.
3) Not having any requirement for the reserved bits. There is a difference in opinion over whether this is a side channel issue or not, or if this should be done only with some sort of negotiation. I'm not the one to articulate this positon.

Which is all to say that I should have taken @martinthomson 's advice a week ago and filed and issue.

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