Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoid PN leak becoming a privacy issue? (#1317)
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Re: "On the sender side, we can continue living with just one loss recovery / congestion control device per connection. This is because in QUIC v1 a sender never sends retransmittable frames through under multiple CIDs at the same time." PATH_CHALLENGE and PATH_RESPONSE frames generate acknowledgements, and are sent on the non-default path, so extra care has to be taken to not cause the acknowledgement of these packets to cause packets on the current default path to be acknowledged. Once you have per-CID PN spaces, a way to ack them in a single QUIC frame or packet, and separate loss recovery contexts for each, you've pretty much created multipath. Except for some text, I don't think there's much left? -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/1317#issuecomment-383584368
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space? (#1317) Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space? (#1317) MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Antoine Delignat-Lavaud
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Antoine Delignat-Lavaud
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… janaiyengar
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Christian Huitema
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… MikkelFJ
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… Kazuho Oku
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] per-CID PN space to avoi… janaiyengar