Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE with Public Reset (#353)
MikkelFJ <notifications@github.com> Mon, 24 April 2017 18:03 UTC
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Subject: Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE with Public Reset (#353)
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The current formulation appears to assume that PUBLIC_RESET is only for servers. But a QUIC connection could be symmetrical. So if the purpose is to tear down a connection, both endpoints should have equal opportunity - or at least it should be explained why this is not possible (e.g. reliance on public CA). A PUBLIC_RESET could be verified by sending a HMAC key during handshake but middleboxes would not be able to verify. It is very difficult for middleboxes to verify a reset without getting a CA involved. Middle boxes might (incorrectly) react to an unverified reset which is an on-path attack vector. Trusted middleboxes could a have a public key on which they can receive a teardown key - but that is a huge and complex issue. The problems with PUBLIC_RESET appear to be non-trivial given that large scale on-path attacks do exist - so perhaps replace public reset with an ACK missing approach for teardown, and have a separate concern for middle boxes. -- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to this thread. Reply to this email directly or view it on GitHub: https://github.com/quicwg/base-drafts/issues/353#issuecomment-296772720
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… MikkelFJ
- [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE wit… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… ianswett
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… mirjak
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Patrick McManus
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Martin Thomson
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… martinduke
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [quicwg/base-drafts] Replace CONNECTION_CLOSE… Mark Nottingham